15-08-2003 23:36									#31
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse A Kraut is a Kraut is a Kraut.

Nonono! There's Sauerkraut, Rotkraut, Blaukraut, Krautsalat, Krautfleckerl...

	15-08-2003 23:37									#32
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Probably because telegraph/wireless era actually made it possible for actions to be directly and instantaneously linked to each other, no matter what their distance.

There's a reason the North American branch of the war was known by a different name...

	15-08-2003 23:38									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Adam Smith Here's something I still don't get: Why do we call 1914-1918 World War I, when the Seven Years War was effectively fought all over the world? Eg., North America, Carribean, Europe, Egypt (?), India. Doesn't that pretty much cover it?

Exactly, THAT was the first definite world war.

	15-08-2003 23:39									#34
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse There's a reason the North American branch of the war was known by a different name...

French & Indian War.

	15-08-2003 23:40									#35
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Your point?

	16-08-2003 00:02									#36
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It wasn't called the First World War at the time, or until after the Second World War. It was called the Great War.

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May 15, 1976- Oerdin is born and the world is changed for ever.

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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin May 15, 1976- Oerdin is born and the world is changed for ever.

Hey, my sister was born only 3 months before you.

	16-08-2003 00:08									#39
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Damn! She must be OLD!

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My European History class used "A History of the Modern World" by Palmer & Colton. Like the 9th edition or something (It was originally published in the 50's, explaining the odd choice of title for a European History text). Pretty classic text, from what I understand. Good, though.

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"The Rise and Fall of the Great Powers" by Paul Kennedy (or something akin to that). Covers their evolution pretty much from the 15th/16th century to now.

If you like economics perhaps you'll like it...I only got halfway through it before getting a bit bored though.

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quote: Originally posted by alva 1302 AD the most important one I guess. The Day we kicked some serious French butt. Not a unique thing to do, I know, but it is for us (annyones for that matter )

Hehe, Belgians... Still remembering the Gulden Sporen Slag.

Vlaanderen de Leeuw!!

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quote: Originally posted by JCG "The Rise and Fall of the Great Powers" by Paul Kennedy (or something akin to that). Covers their evolution pretty much from the 15th/16th century to now. If you like economics perhaps you'll like it...I only got halfway through it before getting a bit bored though.

That's a good book. I enjoyed reading it though it got a bit dry at the end. Up until the end of WW2 though was

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This is a pretty good site: http://www.fsmitha.com/index.html

Covers world history in some 130 articles, organized by both time period and geographic region. Very comprehensive and detailed (for a website, at least), without becoming an unreadable encyclopedia. Includes lots of neat maps and a fairly detailed timeline (but only up to 1100 ). The site is still updated with new articles from time to time (mostly from the 18th-19th century at the moment).

Just select the European articles for the time period you need In this case, some 15 articles from 1500-1900 and another 20ish from the 20th century (but those latter are probably too detailed for what you need)...

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Thanks for help, 'Poly!

And to clarify, this is not a result of me slacking off or not paying attention, or anything like that. History is of great interest to me, I wouldn't slack off. I am just having to compile a 'timeline' of European History, and just wanted a little help in coming up with dates and events.

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'Europe: A History' by Norman Davies is a very good read. I very much recommend it .

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I guess the most important date in European history is May 17 1814.

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Dunno... 25 March 1821 was pretty important too

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1701 - Henry Playford establishes a series of concerts at Oxford.

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C.V. Wedgwood's 'The Thirty Years' War' is an excellent guide to a defining series of events in European history, which would have a notable impact on global history- the end of Spain as a major European power, the damage inflicted on a wide area of Germany (efffectively ensuring 'Germany' didn't get the industrial revolution earlier), the recognition of the Protestant/Catholic divide, the division of the Hapsburgs (no more Charles V superstate)...

There is also an interactive C.D. Rom available from the The Learning Company, called Battles of the World, consultant Martin van Creveld, which although it takes a longer and wider look at military conflict, does focus on ten specific battles in greater detail, with several being European battles from the period in which you're interested.

http://www.atpm.com/3.05/page11.shtml

There's also 'The Foundations of Early Modern Europe', by Eugene F. Rice, and 'The Emergence of the Great Powers' by John B Wolf, 'Reformation Europe' by G.R. Elton, and David Ogg's 'Europe of the Ancien Regime'.

http://www.strategos.demon.co.uk/tywhome/

http://www.historylearningsite.co.u...y_years_war.htm

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quote: quote: Sometime in 1856 End of Crimean War A bunch of colonial wars, none of them on European territory August 1-5, 1914 Start of WWI for major Euro powers Ah yes, Germany's colonial war of 1870/71.

It was also pretty neat how Bismarck got the world's mapmakers to move the territory of the Habsburgs and their allies to Antarctica in '66.

	19-08-2003 09:10									#52
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I do also highly recommend (the book has been mentioned before):
R.R. Palmer/J.Colton, 'A History of the Modern Wordl'
This book also contains a truly excellent bibliography!

I really should not help lazy students, but the urge to do so is too strong.

1445-1521 Josquin des Prez
1453 Conquest of Constantinople by Turks; end of Roman Empire in the East
1454/55 Invention of Printing (in Europe, many centuries after China); Gutenberg Bible
1479-1516 Union of Spain: Ferdinand of Aragon and Isabella of Castile
1508-1512 Michelangelo paints the ceiling frescoes in the Sistine Chapel
1513 N.Machiavelli: 'Il Principe'
1519-1556 Charles V, emperor of the Holy Roman (German) Empire
1520-1566 Suleiman the Magnificent, sultan of the Ottoman Empire
1531 First stock exchange at Antwerpen
1534 Luther's German Bible
1536 J.Calvin: 'Institutio religionis christianiae'
1543 Copernicus: 'De revolutionibus orbium coelestium'
1545-1563 Council of Trent
1556-1598 Philip II, king of Spain
1564-1616 W.Shakespeare
1566 Revolt in the Netherlands begins
1598 Edict of Nantes
1602 Dutch East India Company chartered
1605/06 W.Shakespeare: 'Macbeth'
1605/1615 M.de Cervantes Saavedra: 'Don Quijote de La Mancha'
1611-1632 Gustavus II Adolphus, king of Sweden
1624-1642 Cardinal de Richelieu, premier ministre
1625 H.de Groot: 'De iure belli ac pacis'
1637 R.Descartes: 'Discours de la méthode'
1648 Peace of Westphalia
1661-1715 Louis XIV, king of France
1662 Royal Society of London founded
1664 J.Vermeer: 'View of Delft'
1682 Royal French court moved to Versailles (Galerie des Glaces)
1682-1725 Peter the Great, czar of Russia
1683 Turkish attack on Vienna repelled
1687 I. Newton: 'Philosophiae Naturalis Principia Mathematica'
1688 "Glorious Revolution"
1694 Bank of England established
1700-1721 Great Northern War
1703 Foundation of St.Petersburg
1713 Treaty of Utrecht
1729 J.S.Bach: 'Matthäuspassion'
1740-1780 Maria Theresa, queen of Hungary and Bohemia, archduchess of Austria
1740-1786 Frederick II, king of Prussia
1748 Montesquieu: 'L'esprit des lois'
1751-1768 'L'Encyclopédie' (Diderot, d'Alembert e.a.)
1762 J.Rousseau: 'Du Contrat social'
1763 Peace of Paris; Peace of Hubertusburg
1769 Watt's steam engine
1772 First partition of Poland
1776 A.Smith: 'Inquiry into the Wealth of Nations'
1781 I.Kant: 'Kritik der reinen Vernunft'
1787 W.A.Mozart: 'Don Giovanni'
1776-1788 E.Gibbon: 'The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'
1789 'Déclaration des droits de l'homme et du citoyen'
1804-1814 Napoléon I, emperor of France
1807 British slave trade ended
1808 L.van Beethoven: Vth Symphony in c
1808 J.W.von Goethe: 'Faust I'
1814/15 Congress of Vienna
1829 First railway between Liverpool and Manchester built
1832 Britain: First Reform Bill
1833 Slavery abolished by Britain
1837-1901 Victoria, queen of Great Britain and Ireland, empress of India
1859 C.Darwin: 'On the Origin of Species'
1860 Free trade treaty between Britain and France
1861 Emancipation of Russian slaves
1866-1871 Unification of Germany by Bismarck
1867 K.Marx: 'Das Kapital'
1870 Third Republic in France
1872 C.Monet: 'Impression, soleil levant'
1888-1918 Wilhelm II, emperor of the German Empire
1895 Public cinematograph show opened in Paris (brothers Lumière)
1900 S.Freud: 'Die Traumdeutung'
1905 A.Einstein's theory of relativity
1913 I.Strawinsky: 'Le Sacre du printemps'
1913 M.Proust: 'Du cotê de chez Swann'
1913 N.Bohr's theory of atomic structure
1922 U.S.S.R. established
1936 J.M.Keynes: 'General Theory of Employment, Interest and Money'
1936-1939 Spanish Civil War
1937 P.Picasso: 'Guernica'

I have tried to include some important scientific, economic and cultural achievements.

What about events like the building of the Suez Canal, the discovery of the Americas, the founding of New Amsterdam, the Opium Wars etc.? (events done by Europeans in other parts of the world)

Last edited by S. Kroeze on 19-08-2003 at 09:18