24-08-2003 14:32									#61
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I concur.

Well, at least Manchester United didn't lose. Then we'd really be complaining, wouldn't we?

	24-08-2003 14:51									#62
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Yep - the fact is, only those who lose complain. That's the reason why Man Utd are perceived to get the benefit of refs; bad decisions against us don't tend to matter so much.

I've long been saying IRL that Man Utd don't get as many penalties as they should at Old Trafford - due to refs trying to be "strong" and resist crowd pressure; even if by resisting it, that means an incorrect decision.

	24-08-2003 15:00									#63
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utd. not getting enough penalties for a little comparison, how much of van nistelrooy's goals last season were penalties, and how many did anelka score at city?

pomey are starting well, a win and a draw against city away, good effort. wolves need to buck their ideas up though, 4-0 at home!

shame about yeovil losing at orient as well

	24-08-2003 15:07									#64
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Now let's compare amount of penalties not per game (as teams as Utd are obviously going to get more), but number of penalties given as a percentage of penalties that should have given (I know every now and then this can be debatable).

I remember saying it 10+ times last season during games, and while I might be a biased observer, a Norwich supporter who I drank with tended to agree. It seemed like I'd say everytime Man Utd were on TV.

Hopefully this season will be different.

	24-08-2003 16:01									#65
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Bods

Who's that clown who sent off Hypia? hasn't he give you something like 6 pens in 4 games? or 4 in 2 , summat like that?

	24-08-2003 16:26									#66
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Reds, like I said, no point looking at penalties per game stats. They say very little.

	24-08-2003 16:36									#67
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I know I was just asking the name, I went to the Valencia game pre-season and he was the ref there

	24-08-2003 19:53									#68
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well yeah bods, every team doesn't get penalties it should, and sometimes it goes the other way (especially if you have franny jeffers playing for you ), but i was just saying united seem to get more penalties given than most...

	24-08-2003 22:05									#69
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well i'm very happy, 4-0 to arsenal at the riverside, can't ask for much more

	24-08-2003 22:51									#70
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Lower to mid table sides seem to bother little when playing Arsenal, yet it's their game of the season when playing Man Utd..

	25-08-2003 14:14									#71
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It's called "history".

If each trophy over the last 10 years represented humanitarian aid, Manchester United could end world hunger.

	25-08-2003 15:46									#72
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quote: Originally posted by Frozzy It's called "history". If each trophy over the last 10 years represented humanitarian aid, Manchester United could end world hunger.

10 years is 'history'?

'18 and 4 Forever in our shadow'

	25-08-2003 19:35									#73
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quote: Originally posted by Boddington's Lower to mid table sides seem to bother little when playing Arsenal, yet it's their game of the season when playing Man Utd..

you mean like leeds

	25-08-2003 19:58									#74
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Yep.