22-08-2003 07:57									#31
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While the team game will likely come back too, there's no reason we can't have a non-team game running alongside it.

And as for the parties, well, we'll see. MWIA and I broke them once before...

So surely we have enough interest to create a new forum?

	22-08-2003 08:19									#32
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Kody, isn't your idea pretty close to the existing team game anyway? I am not interested in team games unless I can't get SMAC/X any other way. This will be a straight up team human vs AI situation.

And what would be the problem with using the forum we have for a DG? It's not as if the team games use it very much.

	22-08-2003 08:31									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Vev I love a challenge.

i don't

but meh, put me on the list, i don't guarantee activity though. I'll probably end up "pulling a kassi"

	22-08-2003 08:46									#34
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You mean an obsession with Rei dolls, oh you mean disappearing with a trace.

	22-08-2003 08:54									#35
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Hmmmm

Morgan, with a prebuilt energy park crawling with crawlers, each in a bunker defended by a 1/8AAA/1*3 unit, marked as objectives (so the AI doesn't muck about with them) and lurking for 100 years

So you'd have to survive to 2220 to see Morgan corner the market (or take out his HQ first)

In a permapact (but not submissive/master) with .......

Marr, with Roze in submission (who, of course, starts with everyone infiltrated), and the alphax.txt putting nervegas' prereq as Secrets of Creation(so that you get it just 2 techs before the AI can enable the Progenitor Battlefleet via Singularity Mechanics ...... oh, and give the Aliens a subspace generator pre-built in six bases, so that they just have to have these bases by size 10 and research Singularity to summon the fleet. Or maybe set it at size 15, but give Marr AV so that he's not hanging around for Super Tensiles)

That's 3 AI

What else ...

Oh - also have Morgan permapacted with his buddy .....

Lal, set up as a master with Deirdre and Dawn as submissives, give Lal the EG and CI, give Dee the PTS and the HGP, and start Cha in the Jungle and give him the CV and LV. Set Lal up for a co-op victory as El Supremo.

What have I missed?

Sounds like a challenge? - survive against the Energy King, the Alien battlefleet and Lal's Emperor complex. Turn off conquest victory so that Transcendence is really the only option for the human team

That's prolly too difficult, but something doctored along these lines might give a few surprises

G.

	22-08-2003 09:13									#36
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Me as a poor newbie is lost amongst some of the initials like AV, CV and LV.

	22-08-2003 09:27									#37
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AV - Ascetic Virtues SP - would let Marr grow to size 16 before a hab Dome

CV - Cloning Vats SP - perma pop boom (assuming facilities and nuts are present)

LV - Longevity Vaccine SP - minus 2 drones at every base if running Planned, one less if Simple or Green

G.

	22-08-2003 09:48									#38
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Thanks, all the V's got to me.

	22-08-2003 10:10									#39
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The only reason I'm against using the forums we have is so there's no confusion between the two games.

	22-08-2003 10:33									#40
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quote: Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt Kody, isn't your idea pretty close to the existing team game anyway? I am not interested in team games unless I can't get SMAC/X any other way. This will be a straight up team human vs AI situation. And what would be the problem with using the forum we have for a DG? It's not as if the team games use it very much.

Not really, the other normal non-team players are just there to act as an advanced AI.

	22-08-2003 11:06									#41
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I would be willing to participate in another game... count me in.

	22-08-2003 12:19									#42
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Please, no other human players. We've already got the one MP game.

Let us have this one for a standard DG. I'm sure we can find enough ways to create challenges without MPising it.

	22-08-2003 13:38									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Kody Hey that was my idea!!!. . . .

So true, my apologies - profoundly .

As for the idea itself, I wouldn't be lobbying for it at the expense of people who wanted to play the regular style and for sure not this variation; I was just volunteering to be a more interesting opponent than the AI, no matter how beefed up (Although for sure Goog's can make them plenty challenging and probably impossible if he wanted to spend the time at it, the AI seems to usually end up as a paper tiger once you start to get the upper hand, not to mention the stupid way it handles some stuff).

While it might be interesting to see whether a committee of 20 or so would be a plus or a minus compared to individuals, I wouldn't be relishing trying to outthink 20 people (not to mention 20 times the flaming for slow play or trying to negotiate anything with the multimind).

	22-08-2003 14:18									#44
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quote: Hmmmm...

If you don't count that as cheating AIs, I wonder what you do.

	22-08-2003 18:50									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Vev Me as a poor newbie is lost amongst some of the initials like AV, CV and LV.

Me as a poor newbie is lost long before those V initials.

Anyway, I do think it may be better to use a separate forum. Although the public forum is currently not very active for the team game, we don't know if it will be like this once everybody has met and infiltrated everybody.

	23-08-2003 07:46									#46
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quote: Originally posted by Vev You mean an obsession with Rei dolls, oh you mean disappearing with a trace.

the disappearance part
* Method shudders

	23-08-2003 13:11									#47
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A suggestion: with Poly being down constantly and thus very unreliable, it might be smart to let another site host your ACDG, CGN for example.

	23-08-2003 19:34									#48
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yes! excellent idea!

_{you just want the reismarks, don't you?}

	23-08-2003 22:27									#49
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Since I probably won't be participating in that ACDG: no.

My alterior motive is keeping as much traffic as possible away from Apolyton, so that the site may be online a bit more.

	28-08-2003 05:58									#50
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huh?

what is dg?

damn im lost in these forums all i want to do is play the damn game

	28-08-2003 06:14									#52
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how the hell do i get multiplayer to work

anybody wanna play?

	28-08-2003 06:17									#53
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Leave the democracy forum now, lest I banish you and have my followers crucify you.

	28-08-2003 08:01									#54
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Googlie is -the- 3v1l..........so when do we start? ^_^

	28-08-2003 08:16									#55
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Well, why not start thinking of things now...?

	28-08-2003 18:52									#56
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quote: Originally posted by Maniac A suggestion: with Poly being down constantly and thus very unreliable, it might be smart to let another site host your ACDG, CGN for example.

Actually I think that is a good idea. Maybe buster could tell us whether CGN is receptive to this.

	28-08-2003 18:54									#57
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quote: Originally posted by maninayellowhat how the hell do i get multiplayer to work anybody wanna play?

Don't listen to Tass. He is been bit by mindworms once.

Anyway, have you checked the multiplayer forum? I think that's what you wanted right?

	29-08-2003 22:18									#58
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Count me in... i'd like to be in the team

	29-08-2003 22:25									#59
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* Lemmy skims through the thread
* Lemmy pokes DE and MWIA
Count me in if it's something like the original DG

	29-08-2003 22:32									#60
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