03-09-2003 10:14									#31
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I am not aware of any spyware that installs itself with the consent of the user, thus the "spy" bit.

	03-09-2003 12:01									#32
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Gator. Gator asks you to download it's cookie, and if idiots accept it, fair play to Commission Junction.

	03-09-2003 13:36									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger I am not aware of any spyware that installs itself with the consent of the user, thus the "spy" bit.

Surely the "spy" bit is there because info can be gleaned and sent elsewhere, regardless of consent for installation being granted or not.

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quote: Originally posted by Frozzy Gator. Gator asks you to download it's cookie, and if idiots accept it, fair play to Commission Junction.

I don't know about the rest of you, but that damn Gator keeps asking me if I want to install it's bullshit whenever I surf these forums.

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I never get this...

	04-09-2003 01:15									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Caligastia I don't know about the rest of you, but that damn Gator keeps asking me if I want to install it's bullshit whenever I surf these forums.

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=95024

Edit: I did in no way edit this post.

	04-09-2003 01:30									#38
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Oh, I think you meant to link me to this thread.

	04-09-2003 01:49									#39
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I have no idea how that happened. Must be a freak bug.

Yes the gator thread was what I attempted to point you to.

	04-09-2003 01:56									#40
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The one you linked me to was funny though.

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Worst part is I was castigating Shiber for misclicking on an adjacent link the other day. When he sees this he will feast on the delicious irony.

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	04-09-2003 10:25									#43
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Surely the "spy" bit is there because info can be gleaned and sent elsewhere, regardless of consent for installation being granted or not.

Well, if you install something that you have no idea what it does, that would be a personal problem

	04-09-2003 12:51									#44
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Are you trying to get him to take responsibility for his own actions, UR??

Asmodean

	04-09-2003 14:10									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger I am not aware of any spyware that installs itself with the consent of the user, thus the "spy" bit.

Since you both missed the point I'll repeat this quote. I don't think this is the reason it is called spyware. I think the reason I gave seems more consistent. I may be wrong; either way neither of you addressed the point, especially UR, who is as slippery as always.

	04-09-2003 18:40									#46
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Okay. Then I'll address it.

Spyware, as such, never actually asks for your permission to install. Most spyware finds it's way to your machine bundled with other software, that may or may not ask for permission to be installed.

In the case of Gator, what you actually click to install is a "Precision Date/time manager" whatever that may be. That program, however, is ad driven, meaning that to use it, you will have to put up with a lot of ads.

Now what Gator does, is it monitors the websites you visit, and then it tires to display ads that are relevant to your interests. This, it does by extracting information about you. This it what puts the spy in spyware, and is of course the real intent of Gator.

So you click yes to install one program, but with it comes another program.

Asmodean

	04-09-2003 18:54									#47
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quote: Originally posted by Asmodean Now what Gator does, is it monitors the websites you visit, and then it tires to display ads that are relevant to your interests. This, it does by extracting information about you. This it what puts the spy in spyware, and is of course the real intent of Gator.

Right. So my response to UR was correct, and you should have agreed with me. It was he who brought up consent. I only addressed his point. See?

	04-09-2003 19:04									#48
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Yup. But my comment was really more directed at him than at you.

Asmodean