29-08-2003 02:27									#31
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I buy two types of stocks Investment and Gambled Stocks...

1. When I look for Investment stocks I look at large cap stocks with high volumes of trade (like Apple), if it falls into this catagory I will not Gamble with it. Then I look for low PE and high yield (or good performance over the last 2-5 years). I also check to see that their earnings are fine, if their earnings are low I expect to see a slightly higher PE, but I don't want something too high still.

For low earnings I then investigate on why their earning are low, check their cash assets, expenses, and total net worth. If their cash assets are high I would speculate that they are about to make a move to compensate for their low earnings (buy), if their expenses are high I speculate that they will have lay offs (sell) or sell of part of their company (buy), and if their total net worth is very high I would expect them to barter against it and maybe aquire a company or sell something off (buy). Yet, this is only if their earnings are low, which is rare for large cap companies...

2. Gambling stocks are just that - a gamble. I find stocks that look like they have a good product and buisness plan, as well as decent backers, I ignore all numbers and buy. Usually these stocks are cheap (less then $10/share) and you can get a deal. Other times the stocks are just down right risky investment, but it's the monkey game... Being in Pharma I generally gamble on pharma stock since I understand the buisness a little better than other markets (not much mind you), and can speculate better on whether such a company will sink or swim...

Basically, as I am young right now, I have about a 70/30 cash split on these types of stocks, with 70 being the more stable of investments.

A while ago I bought CAG (ConAgra Foods) after we talked about people making petrol out of chicken guts, and CAG funds that research. I checked them out and they had a low PE (12-13 range), a good yield (4-5%, when bonds were making 2), they were 5 points of their 52 week high (and 5 points above their low), they had high expenses, good earning, and a lot of cash... I also saw that they were in dealings to sell of some portions of their buisness... So I bought. The stock is only up a buck from where I bought it about 4 months, but it also has already returned me 4.5% on the dollar... That's better than any CD I could of bought! I like the stock. Thanks

	29-08-2003 02:52									#32
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quote: Originally posted by monolith94 Wow, Asher, that's very diplomatic of you. I honestly can't remember the last time you were so genial on this subject!

Looks like the Ashman got a bit recently.

	29-08-2003 04:28									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon Looks like the Ashman got a bit recently.

What have I been missing?!

	29-08-2003 04:38									#34
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quote: Wow, Asher, that's very diplomatic of you. I honestly can't remember the last time you were so genial on this subject!

That's because 99% of the time he's TROLLING you, you fool!

	29-08-2003 04:39									#35
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Mac sucks.

	29-08-2003 04:40									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar Mac sucks.

You could at least be a little more detailed than that.

	29-08-2003 04:44									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar Mac sucks.

No, you can't spell. It's "S-A-C-K S-C-U-M."

	29-08-2003 04:48									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon No, you can't spell. It's "S-A-C-K S-C-U-M."

	29-08-2003 04:58									#39
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Enough with the spamming... unless you enjoy being restricted.

	29-08-2003 05:00									#40
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Mr. NIce Guy; did ever occur to you that an analyst saying that even though the numbers look bad that it's a good stock, and that analyst don't understand it, is a little hypocritical? Sounds fishy to me... Pump-and-dump-ish

	29-08-2003 05:28									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Japher Mr. NIce Guy; did ever occur to you that an analyst saying that even though the numbers look bad that it's a good stock, and that analyst don't understand it, is a little hypocritical? Sounds fishy to me... Pump-and-dump-ish

According to the article "they have been wrong before, so why should we listen to them now?"

	29-08-2003 05:30									#42
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You need help.

Never listen to anyone's advice, ever, about stocks. Simple rule.

Especially from people who proclaim they're not experts but think they know better. You know right away that's trouble.

	29-08-2003 05:34									#43
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Well, Asher, you just gave me advice on stocks... should I listen to it or not?

It's like a sign that says "Do Not Read This Sign"

	29-08-2003 05:35									#44
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Didn't read the thread. But why does this matter? Shouldn't we be arguing "Mac OS X is better for the 2 games that it does play than Windows XP" instead of "Apple stock is better for 2 investors that are from the future than Microsoft"?

	29-08-2003 05:35									#45
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I gave no advice on stocks, I gave advice on receiving advice on stocks.

	29-08-2003 06:14									#46
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How are Microsoft stocks doing? Come to think of it, what about Red Hat?

	29-08-2003 06:18									#47
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MSFT has faired fairly well considering all the law suits, bad economy, and even the X-Box fiasco... They are a very attractive stock at this time.

Don't even care to look up Red Hat, whatever that is, go look it up yourself

	29-08-2003 07:42									#48
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quote: Originally posted by Asher I gave no advice on stocks, I gave advice on receiving advice on stocks.

I was at the lines for computers at school today and I thought of u and went into the mac line.

	29-08-2003 07:52									#49
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Why am I not surprised? Someone choosing a Mac based on emotion rather than utility and usefulness?

	29-08-2003 07:55									#50
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Why am I not surprised? Someone choosing a Mac based on emotion rather than utility and usefulness?

I was afraid of sitting next to someone like u. I find that a very useful decision.

	29-08-2003 08:01									#51
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I hate wolf-in-sheep's-clothing criers.

Sounds fishy to me.

	29-08-2003 08:03									#52
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quote: Originally posted by yavoon I was afraid of sitting next to someone like u. I find that a very useful decision.

You must feel a lot better knowing you're sitting next to someone like Wiglaf or Cloud9.

	29-08-2003 08:06									#53
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quote: Originally posted by Asher You must feel a lot better knowing you're sitting next to someone like Wiglaf or Cloud9.

they're happy zealots. ur a mean ugly zealot. u're kinda like those shiites that slice their heads open to proclaim their grief over that guy that died a long time ago.

	29-08-2003 08:08									#54
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Mean I can deal with.
But ugly?

They're zealots, I'm opinionated. There's a difference. I form my opinions based on understanding and reason, they base theirs on habit and emotion.

	29-08-2003 08:09									#55
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Mean I can deal with. But ugly? They're zealots, I'm opinionated. There's a difference. I form my opinions based on understanding and reason, they base theirs on habit and emotion.

ur like an alcoholic zealot

	29-08-2003 08:13									#56
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But at least I can type complete words. That...that, I am proud of.

Seriously though, when I'm not *****ing at someone or I'm not trolling, I'm a very nice guy.
And I quote from a guy I know last night on MSN:

code:
8/27/2003  11:15:35 PM  bryan: you know Dave 
8/27/2003  11:15:38 PM  bryan: you're a really nice guy 
8/27/2003  11:15:40 PM  bryan: i must say 
8/27/2003  11:15:45 PM  bryan:  
8/27/2003  11:15:49 PM  bryan: really 
8/27/2003  11:15:53 PM  Dave:  :$ 
8/27/2003  11:15:58 PM  bryan: not many people are as nice as you 
8/27/2003  11:16:00 PM  Dave:  thanks  
8/27/2003  11:16:03 PM  bryan: like hardly anyone 
8/27/2003  11:16:08 PM  bryan: welcome  

	29-08-2003 08:33									#57
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quote: Originally posted by Asher I form my opinions based on understanding and reason.

Is that your code for half read internet sites that claim the opposite you do?

	29-08-2003 08:37									#58
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Some day you'll realize the difference between what a rule states, and somebody's opinion of its implications. A site can be correct in stating the rule, but incorrect in his opinion of its implications.

It's not too difficult.

	29-08-2003 08:42									#59
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Some day you'll realize the difference between what a rule states, and somebody's opinion of its implications. A site can be correct in stating the rule, but incorrect in his opinion of its implications.

And some day you'll realise that, without further argument, posting from a site that disagrees with you over the very point at issue in the debate makes you look extremely silly.

What makes it worse is that you've done it more than once.

	29-08-2003 09:12									#60
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I'm so tired of arguing this with you. Let me just tell you one more time that the law had absolutely nothing to do with the top of the screen being optimal for placement, it's just his opinion. The law, of course, is mathematical.

I don't know why it's so complex for you.