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Asher
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Calgary, Alberta
Nov 1999
time: 22:30
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Originally posted by Agathon
I notice you dumped your criticism of "epistemology" once you put your foot in it.  |
That's because I'm not about to debate something mind-numbingly boring, incredibly retarded, and bullshit to the core. Especially with a pompous philosophy prof who is knee-deep in his own bullshit and is so used to it that he doesn't even know what it is anymore.
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And IIRC the important Phil logic stuff sailed over your head. |
Are you still mad because I found your stupid word paradox incredibly useless? That doesn't show my lack of understanding, it shows your desperation for usefulness.
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Again you show your ignorance of the whole business. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it has no use. We get lots of students who enjoy doing it and find philosophy useful in their other courses. If it had no use, it wouldn't be so wildly popular.
Some people just like knowledge for it's own sake. That's why my course on that boring old Greek, Plato, filled up in about 3 days. |
People take Philosophy because it's a GPA booster. Where else can you write anything you want and practically be guaranteed a C or higher?
As a philosopher you should be well aware how stupid such an argument is, because discrete mathematics would be rather useless because it's not as popular as film studies, or philosophy. 
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It's sad that some people will attend university and come out with no real education at all. |
Which is precisely why there shouldn't be a philosophy department, so we can use the funds to teach people useful things... 
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Agathon
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Leafs 4TW!! - CPA
Dec 2002
time: 00:30
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Originally posted by Asher
That's because I'm not about to debate something mind-numbingly boring, incredibly retarded, and bullshit to the core. Especially with a pompous philosophy prof who is knee-deep in his own bullshit and is so used to it that he doesn't even know what it is anymore. |
Aw Diddums. You said something mind numbingly stupid and got called on it. How evil and pretentious of philosophers to use Greek derived words to describe their field? WTF are you talking about!?! They're Greek words because the subjects were invented by Greeks, who, gasp, spoke greek. Shame on them for not speaking English - so what if they were 1500 years too early!
If any subject is guilty of coining Greek-derived words for pretentious reasons it's the sciences.
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Are you still mad because I found your stupid word paradox incredibly useless? That doesn't show my lack of understanding, it shows your desperation for usefulness. |
You just didn't understand the point behind it and you still don't. Yet you are content to mouth off about it.
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People take Philosophy because it's a GPA booster. Where else can you write anything you want and practically be guaranteed a C or higher? |
A "C"? Hardly a GPA booster. Actually it's harder to get a straight A in philosophy than it is in mathematics. In my experience as a professional philosophy teacher students often complain that taking philosophy actually made their GPA worse than if they did Phys Ed or something else.
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As a philosopher you should be well aware how stupid such an argument is, because discrete mathematics would be rather useless because it's not as popular as film studies, or philosophy. |
The people who take it, who I know because I teach them, take it out of either interest or because they think it will help them in other fields like Poli Sci, Economics or Law. And it does... Those are facts - it's not a matter of logical argument (if you can't understand the difference, that's your fault).
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Which is precisely why there shouldn't be a philosophy department, so we can use the funds to teach people useful things... |
Oh **** off. If it was up to you universities would all become polytechnics, thereby undermining the whole point of universities as places of disinterested inquiry.
What you do will be completely obsolete in 100 years. Yet there will still be classics and philosophy courses just like there has been for the past 2500 years.
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Asher
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Calgary, Alberta
Nov 1999
time: 22:30
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Originally posted by Agathon
Aw Diddums. You said something mind numbingly stupid and got called on it. How evil and pretentious of philosophers to use Greek derived words to describe their field? WTF are you talking about!?! They're Greek words because the subjects were invented by Greeks, who, gasp, spoke greek. Shame on them for not speaking English - so what if they were 1500 years too early!
If any subject is guilty of coining Greek-derived words for pretentious reasons it's the sciences. |
I never said anything about Greek words in particular, that was all you baby... You took it and ran with it, then started chanting a victory song about it. For a philosophy teacher you sure use strawmans and red herrings at every possible opportunity...
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You just didn't understand the point behind it and you still don't. Yet you are content to mouth off about it. |
I not only understand the point behind it, but I go a step farther than you want to go: I understand that the only people it is of use for is the philosophy students who constantly bicker semantics rather than do anything useful. Hence, it is useless! 
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A "C"? Hardly a GPA booster. Actually it's harder to get a straight A in philosophy than it is in mathematics. |
Depends how you look at it. Since philosophy is the study of bullshit, and your mark depends entirely on if the prof thinks you're ****able or not, then it could be hard to get a straight A in philosophy compared to a subject like mathematics which has actual, real content to objectively mark you on. 
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The people who take it, who I know because I teach them, take it out of either interest or because they think it will help them in other fields like Poli Sci, Economics or Law. And it does... Those are facts - it's not a matter of logical argument (if you can't understand the difference, that's your fault). |
Of course it's fact that people take it because they want to, but it's also fact that a lot of people take it because they have to. It's also fact that some people think it's complete bullshit and useless.
Philosophy have not contributed anything of value in the past 50 years, at the least, and last time I brought this up you mentioned it simply takes time for this to come into effect. As evidence, you cited a bunch of ancient philosophers who simply guessed about things until a scientist found it out. You conviently ignore that 99% of the **** philosophers spill never came true. It's a lot like a psychic, really...
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Oh **** off. If it was up to you universities would all become polytechnics, thereby undermining the whole point of universities as places of disinterested inquiry. |
Not true. I'm all for keeping departments like history, English, economics, etc. They all serve a purpose as far as I can see, whereas Philosophy exists for the sake of existing because some people find it interesting. I don't like my tax dollars going to that kind of crap when it can be put towards, say, medical research.
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What you do will be completely obsolete in 100 years. Yet there will still be classics and philosophy courses just like there has been for the past 2500 years. |
You seriously think computers won't be around in 100 years? 
Ahhh, the strong intellect of modern philosophy teachers.
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