09-09-2003 10:05									#31
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quote: get druck

Started without us, Sprayber?

I agree. Boring topic.

Should be marketed as a sleep aid.

	09-09-2003 10:34									#32
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quote: Go out and think of something besides Bush for a few minutes. Get laid, get druck or get something.

If they were thinking about 'bush', couldn't they concievably be thinking about getting laid (if they were straight ).

	09-09-2003 10:40									#33
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Like a fairway lie? A bush lie?

	09-09-2003 12:43									#34
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Gaah! Must wash eyes!

	09-09-2003 14:49									#35
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"No child shall be left behind."

"I support our troops."

	09-09-2003 15:54									#36
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"And" and "the".

	09-09-2003 16:47									#37
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oh please. clinton is as much of a scumbucket as bush is.

two sides of the same dismal coin. america's going down the shitter, and it's not because of terrorists. it's because of the nasty fcuks in power, and the idiots that keep voting stupidly, based on "party loyalty" and looks.

	09-09-2003 18:22									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed oh please. clinton is as much of a scumbucket as bush is.

quote: two sides of the same dismal coin. america's going down the shitter, and it's not because of terrorists. it's because of the nasty fcuks in power, and the idiots that keep voting stupidly, based on "party loyalty" and looks.

Unfortunately yes... but there is hope. I can think of two Dem. primary candidates that are not party whores. The rest are crap, however.

	09-09-2003 18:32									#39
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All politicians lie. What A F****** surprise.
All Presidents lie. What A F****** surprise. Ok, maybe Carter didn't, but that's because he was scared of the rabbit coming to kill him if he did.
Ok, maybe Ford because he was too brain dead to lie.

But Name one other president in the last 50 years that you truely believe did not lie to the American Public.

	09-09-2003 18:41									#40
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Oh, well if they all do it then it must be OK!!!

Look at the uproar about Clinton's sex lies, that wasn't something that caused thousands of peoples deaths.

	09-09-2003 18:48									#41
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what are you talking about? the idea in vogue with a lot of knee-jerk rightists is that clinton's to blame for that, too.

	09-09-2003 18:49									#42
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How do you know that it didn't. Maybe if he was more concerned about terrorists then lying about getting his rocks off, thousands may have been saved. (from that wacky right)

I'm not saying it's ok. I'm just saying it's humorous that people are surprised when it happens.

	09-09-2003 18:50									#43
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Gulf War I (part deux) Don't tell me that when I said people you assumed I meant Americans.

	09-09-2003 18:51									#44
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i don't know if it is or isn't. but the right loves blaming everything wrong with the us and the world on clinton; the left loves doing the same to bush.

they both conveniently ignore the fact that american politics is a reflection on america itself. they both refuse to admit that it's not the fault of bush or clinton; it's their own fault for letting things go to hell by shirking their duties as citizens.

	09-09-2003 18:53									#45
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I have no idea how the US political system will ever recover. There seems to be no realistic push for reform from the current system which is clearly FUBARed.

	09-09-2003 19:28									#46
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quote: Originally posted by MikeH Look at the uproar about Clinton's sex lies, that wasn't something that caused thousands of peoples deaths.

Yes, but it were mostly foreigners who died, so it doesn´t matter a lot (it maters more that he grossly micalculated the costs of the war).

Clintons lie on the other hand was about something sexual and therefore bah

	09-09-2003 19:34									#47
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quote: Originally posted by rah But Name one other president in the last 50 years that you truely believe did not lie to the American Public.

Eisenhower!

	09-09-2003 19:59									#48
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quote: Originally posted by rah All politicians lie. What A F****** surprise. All Presidents lie. What A F****** surprise. Ok, maybe Carter didn't, but that's because he was scared of the rabbit coming to kill him if he did. Ok, maybe Ford because he was too brain dead to lie. But Name one other president in the last 50 years that you truely believe did not lie to the American Public.

Do you think that liberals are the only ones that criticize presidents who lie?

I remember Republicans and conservatives getting all hot-headed and morally righteous over Clinton's stupid mistake.

	09-09-2003 20:17									#49
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quote: Originally posted by MrFun Do you think that liberals are the only ones that criticize presidents who lie? I remember Republicans and conservatives getting all hot-headed and morally righteous over Clinton's stupid mistake.

Not at all, I was one of those that was all over Clinton. My point is that I'm surprised when people are surprised.

	09-09-2003 20:19									#50
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quote: Originally posted by rah Not at all, I was one of those that was all over Clinton. My point is that I'm surprised when people are surprised.

Ok -- you are right about no need to be surprised.



Oh, and for the record, Clinton actions and then lying about it was S T U P I D, so I guess I was with ya on that one.

	09-09-2003 20:20									#51
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People are only surprised he's managed to get to be President when he's so unsubtle about it.

	09-09-2003 20:21									#52
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Look, MikeH -- Caveman Bush has made a bad president, ok?

I'm disgusted with his policies, and his misleading American people, but I'm not surprised by it.

	09-09-2003 20:30									#53
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I never said you were surprised by it. That was a little joke, hence the wink.

	09-09-2003 20:52									#54
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oh . . .


LOL

	09-09-2003 20:57									#55
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I firmly believe Clinton lied about more things than just sex...

	09-09-2003 21:04									#56
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YA THINK.

	09-09-2003 21:25									#57
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Speaking of lies, has Ted Kennedy ever admitted to anything regarding Chappaquiddick ?

	09-09-2003 21:29									#58
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Is there a Kennedy that's still alive?

	09-09-2003 21:35									#59
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The runt of the litter still lives.

	09-09-2003 21:46									#60
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I think that Clinton bombing a country because he was caught with deep-throat Monica is just as bad as Bush bombing countries for oil- now don't come up with the terrorist fight sh*t; Saudi Arabia, North Korea and Iran are civil right nightmares and no one cares, same happened in Yugoslavia.. people never learn