28-10-2003 18:22									#61
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2109 to Drones.

It would have been nice to be able to play ten turns without making massive mistakes. Oh well, I'll be wiser in other games...

	31-10-2003 15:03									#62
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Hello hello hello
is there Anybody IN there...
is there AnyBOdy HOME?

	02-11-2003 15:07									#63
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TheRedmenace, have you received and/or played the turn? Does anyone know where the turn is right now?

	03-11-2003 13:48									#64
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I don't have it - last turn received was 2109 then sent to MM on 28/10

	03-11-2003 16:10									#65
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Nor do I.

With no offense intended, I propose we agree on guidelines --
-- on what conditions to expel TheRedMenace (if the turn is held up with him again)
-- on what conditions to expel any other player (including me, of course) repeatedly holding up the game in the future.

My proposals:
-- TRM gets three more days to respond this time; after this, we start looking for a replacement
-- long term policy: three "strikes" you're out, with a "strike" being an unannounced 72 hours (3 days) between receipt and sendoff, and 120 hours (5 days) counting as two strikes.

I think I already have one strike to my name...

Do y'all think this is liberal enough to be fair, but tough enough to keep things rolling?

USC

	03-11-2003 16:40									#66
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I agree there should be a cut off for when someone just stops playing or makes it difficult for the game to progress by repeatedly delaying the game - but i think 72 hours might be a little too harsh.

I have always been open that I can only play at lunch times on weekdays.
So for example if a turn arrives at 2:00 pm on friday it is highly possible that I won't get that turn off to Minute Mirage until 1:30 pm monday - that gets very close to the 72 hour mark for me and doesn't leave a lot of room for manoeuver.

Also if someone is ill it can take a little while before being able to get to the computer again - even to post a "Sorry, I won't be around for a few days" message.

My proposal - make it 4 days for one strike, 7 for two and 10 for three (and out)

Alternatively consider this an advanced warning that although it is unlikely I might not make the 72 hour cut off every weekend.

FonnParr

	04-11-2003 02:33									#67
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I agree to the 4 day 1 strike limit. I've had times when I could not play on the weekends. Even so, I think with strikes involved, we should still take a vote to get someone off the island....

	04-11-2003 02:39									#68
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I'm fine with whatever time limit we decide to use. I think we are progressing too slowly at the moment, and if we continue with 1 turn/week, we'd be lucky to finish in 2005. We should aim at playing at least two turns/week, which means that FonnParr should get the second turn before the weekend. Of course, I would prefer three turns/week, but that would require spending only two days/turn, and it may well be beyond our reach.

	04-11-2003 23:07									#69
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OK, revised proposal based on the above
- "good form": no more than 1 day/person/turn (sorry MM, but I know for myself, at least, that much of the time that will be how it goes for me).
- 4 days: 1 strike
- 7 days: 2 strikes
- 9 days: 3 strikes
- 3 strikes: vote for expulsion


- this concrete case, however: I proposing commencing a vote to expel TRM if nothing is heard from him by 23:59 GMT on the 6th. Here's hoping this does not have to happen.

	04-11-2003 23:19									#70
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I have resent the turn 2109 to TheRedMenace just in case he didn't receive it earlier. I've also PM'ed Comstr in case he has the turn.

	05-11-2003 13:54									#71
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Far as I know I never got it.

	07-11-2003 12:26									#72
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I just send 2109 to Blut0

	07-11-2003 22:08									#73
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OK, but this had better be the last time this happens...

USC

	08-11-2003 05:17									#74
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2109 off to USC. Had to reload, used the wrong password.

Sure feels good to get this going again...

"...What do you mean you forgot the passcode! We're trying to move this colony pod into position and you forget how to get back inside? With rampaging mind worms to the east? This is the last time I trust you with the keys to the rover!"

	10-11-2003 18:12									#75
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2110 to Drones.

	10-11-2003 18:25									#76
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Aha, that's what it was.

I likewise managed to (apparently) click "Save and Exit" instead of "OK" before my turn. I went on to enter the password and play the turn, and all of my units were marked as having used up their moves. One more try later, my turn went as normal but was marked as a reload.

Don't try this at home, kids.

	10-11-2003 22:24									#77
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2110 sent to ComStr

	11-11-2003 14:35									#78
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Sent.

Gee, all Ive seen is a single signet tower that I can't reach. Least I killed some worms this time.

	13-11-2003 12:07									#79
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Sorry all, I have the turn but I will be unable to play until tomorrow. Just in case you were wondering.

Blut0

	14-11-2003 19:39									#80
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2111 to TheRedMenace.

	15-11-2003 13:34									#81
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Turn sent to ComStr.

First contact made with the Hive. Hold me, I'm frightened.

	16-11-2003 03:43									#82
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Sent. I hope I find someone

	17-11-2003 12:01									#83
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Turn 2111 sent to USC.
"What is that thing floating offshore? A waterborne form of the mindworms? What do you mean it responds to old episodes of Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea???"

	19-11-2003 05:24									#84
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2112 to FonnParr.

	19-11-2003 18:26									#85
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	19-11-2003 18:44									#86
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2112 to TheRedMenace.

	19-11-2003 21:28									#87
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I don't see the turn in my mail. Resend please?

	19-11-2003 21:33									#88
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Resent, hopefully it will reach you this time.

	19-11-2003 21:44									#89
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Hi, I hope you'll pardon the intrusion, but I noticed the title of this PBEM - 'Blind Leaders'. So, would you say this is a game where "the blind are leading the blind"?

	19-11-2003 21:50									#90
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Received, played, and forwarded.

Nothing interesting to report.