09-10-2003 19:37									#61
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So while on vacation how many people do you expect to send on vacation?

	09-10-2003 22:52									#62
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Well after that pun it's clear where he should start.

	10-10-2003 00:05									#63
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Since Greece is Nato, whatever his rank is called in Greece, if he is a junior officer, he is probably either second leutenant, or if he is a noncom, he would be a sergeant.

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	10-10-2003 01:39									#64
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this might be a greek invention. i'm still in the army doing my mandatory service, but i get to be a low rank officer. my rank is just below a junior/second lieutenant, i'll do more time(17 instead of 12 months of a normal conscript) but now that i'm going to a unit, i'll have (or that's the catch line) an officer's work hours(m-f, 7:00-14:30)

	10-10-2003 04:44									#65
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quote: this might be a greek invention.

Nope, sounds pretty much the same as it used to be done here.
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	10-10-2003 05:15									#66
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG this might be a greek invention. i'm still in the army doing my mandatory service, but i get to be a low rank officer. my rank is just below a junior/second lieutenant, i'll do more time(17 instead of 12 months of a normal conscript) but now that i'm going to a unit, i'll have (or that's the catch line) an officer's work hours(m-f, 7:00-14:30)

not a single evening duty, or weekend dutie.

But thismean you will be in the army for additional 5 months...

	10-10-2003 05:51									#67
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quote: But thismean you will be in the army for additional 5 months...

Nope, this means he' sgot something to do and a reason to get up in the morning...for a few extra months

	10-10-2003 09:24									#68
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And Poly isn't enough for him?

	10-10-2003 10:09									#69
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What? Are you implying Poly needs continious maintenance or som'inc'k !?!?
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Well, he can still do that in the evening. As long as we don't have a life....

	10-10-2003 11:16									#70
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quote: not a single evening duty, or weekend dutie

no,no, depending on the number of officers, i'll have an "officer on service for the night" duty every few days(or more days if things are better)....

	10-10-2003 12:12									#71
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Sounds like you are having some fun, Mark.

btw, that picture for your avatar is great.

	10-10-2003 15:36									#72
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG quote: not a single evening duty, or weekend dutie no,no, depending on the number of officers, i'll have an "officer on service for the night" duty every few days(or more days if things are better)....

Does that mean you will walk around with a sharp ammunition loaded gun those nights? (And is there a similar posion for days?)

Of is there something less important.

	11-10-2003 12:23									#73
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quote: Does that mean you will walk around with a sharp ammunition loaded gun those nights?

no, this kind of duty(which exists) is done by privates(i've done it as part of my training). each night(literally after 14:30 when all officers leave) an officer(and helping officer) stay in the unit in charge of everything...

	11-10-2003 12:49									#74
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG quote: Does that mean you will walk around with a sharp ammunition loaded gun those nights? no, this kind of duty(which exists) is done by privates(i've done it as part of my training). each night(literally after 14:30 when all officers leave) an officer(and helping officer) stay in the unit in charge of everything...

Sounds pretty much like it's the same as it was for me when I served as a second leutenent in the Danish army 12 years ago.

Only difference: We worked untill 15:00, not 14:30

But them greeks have always been lazy bastards

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update: i'm now an officer of the greek army but i'll stay in school for 2 more weeks of specialty training in communications. then i have 2 weeks of vacation and then i'm trasnfared to unit in Evros, Thrace near the borders with Bulgaria and Turkey

	11-10-2003 13:09									#76
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quote: Originally posted by Asmodean I served as a second leutenent in the Danish army 12 years ago

for how long?

quote: But them greeks have always been lazy bastards

it's our national sport

	11-10-2003 13:25									#77
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG for how long?

I was in the army reserve officer's program, meaning that I still get to be called upon if the s*** hits the fan

First I was a recruit/sergeant trainee for six months, after which I was promoted to sergeant. I then served as a sergeant for 1 month, before I went to officer school. In the short space of 4 months I was then trained to be a second leutenant. After that I had 1 month to prepare the traning schedule of a platton of new recruits, and then I was platoon leader for 1 year, supervising the actual training of these recruits.

So I was in the army for 2 years, but only 13 months as an officer.

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	11-10-2003 13:48									#78
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similar stuff. upon completion of my service, i'll be in the reserves as well....

	11-10-2003 14:58									#79
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG quote: Does that mean you will walk around with a sharp ammunition loaded gun those nights? no, this kind of duty(which exists) is done by privates(i've done it as part of my training). each night(literally after 14:30 when all officers leave) an officer(and helping officer) stay in the unit in charge of everything...

In sweden they would not let privates (other than the guard and possible Military Police) walk around with sharp ammo (at least not on the regements, in field it could sometimes be allowed, but with high security routines). But if something happens there is always a group of privates to be ready to send out. But normal survillance are done by the guard (control in- and outpassing to the regement), which are specially trained privates, and by the day-officer, which is an officer that controls the order inside the regement, and always is armed. And I thought your "officer on service for the night" duty was something similr to a night 'day officer' shift, but I guess I was wrong

	11-10-2003 15:12									#80
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so if privates dont guard the regement what do they do all day(and night) long?

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Come back, Mark.

	11-10-2003 21:04									#82
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Wow, you got an officer's rank pretty fast...

Are you sure you're not simply a sergeant?

	11-10-2003 21:09									#83
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	11-10-2003 23:14									#84
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG so if privates dont guard the regement what do they do all day(and night) long?

As I said there is the guard plutons which do nothing but guarding (both inside the regement and on other storage areas on secret locations in case an alarm goes off)

Than there are these force of normal privates that are ready to get out at any time. I don't remeber the time they have to get ready any time of the day/night right now, but it's either 30 minutes or 60 minutes (I think it's 60 minutes, because an offiicer that is commander of the said force must have time to get to the regement from his/her home)

That time that I don't remember is the maximum time from an alert is issued until the force is ready to leave the regement fully armed and with equipment for staying out for at least 24 hours if needed. This foorce is used to help the civil defence and to guard military storage areas where the alarm is in mallfuction.

It's half a year since I demobbed, and I already start to forget the rules. Oh, well, I know that I have 20 minutes (or was it 15 ) to deploy the system unit I were working (and playing GameBoy when there were nothing to do (I wasn't allowed to install Civ on the computers )) in.