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Asher
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Calgary, Alberta
Nov 1999
time: 22:31
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An interesting article for those of us mature enough to read it: http://www.forbes.com/2003/10/09/10...yahoo&referrer=
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Ex-Apple CEO Regrets Nixing Intel
Stephen Lawson, 10.09.03, 1:40 PM ET
Apple should have adopted the Intel architecture when it had the chance, former Apple leader John Sculley said Tuesday.
In the late-1980s, when Apple (nasdaq: AAPL - news - people ) was using the Motorola (nyse: MOT - news - people ) 68000 series chips and considering its next step, Intel co-founder Andy Grove tried to convince the company to migrate to Intel (nasdaq: INTC - news - people ) chips, Sculley told a standing-room-only crowd at the Silicon Valley 4.0 conference, held at the Computer History Museum, in Mountain View, Calif.
An experienced team from Cupertino, Calif.-based Apple studied the idea but turned it down. Apple concluded that Intel's CISC (Complex Instruction Set Computer) architecture ultimately would not be able to compete against RISC (Reduced Instruction Set Computer) processors, which had a more advanced instruction set, he said. Apple later adopted RISC.
"That's probably one of the biggest mistakes I've ever made, not going to the Intel platform," said Sculley, Apple's former chairman and CEO, now a partner in New York investment firm Sculley Brothers.
As it turned out, Intel was able to keep its CISC architecture and bring the RISC instruction set into it. What Apple had underestimated was the power of Intel's overall system as a manufacturer, bringing billions of dollars to bear on the problem and solving it through evolution, Sculley said.
"They never had to do a heart transplant," he said.
Had it gone to the Intel platform, Apple would have had more options, he said. For one thing, not embracing the endless commoditization of Intel-architecture chips meant Apple couldn't compete on price against "the Dell (nasdaq: DELL - news - people )s of the world," he said. The die was cast. Apple took another path and ended up a different kind of company, Sculley said.
A smaller one, perhaps. |
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Kaak
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I wanted to ask Kaak how Dell was planning to set up an iTMS-like service without their own equivalent of iTunes, but it's kind of hard to post on-topic when the thread has been jacked beyond all recognition. John Sculley talking about Intel chips? Thanks a lot... |
Dell is changing their website. We will have something much like iTunes...
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yavoon
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Originally posted by Asher
Who is immitating who?
Apple wasn't the first company with a harddrive portable media player, nor the first company to sell music online through a service. |
its pretty safe to say dell is imitating apple. its the relative success of apple's product that caused the imitation. its the idea that it can work that is being imitated not the trivialness of "someone somewhere has done it before."
apple has caused a lot of waves of imitation on the pc side. including their operating system.
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yavoon
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Originally posted by Asher
That makes sense from that perspective.
I still don't think anyone who sells music online and sells a portable media player should be labeled as immitating Apple though, since people have been doing that long before Apple. Just now that the devices have higher capactieis and more people have broadband that it's catching on.
"Immitation" goes both ways, some good ideas are implemented on both sides and those ideas tend to manifest themselves on both sides.
It certainly gets to me how some people only seem to think PCs copy Apple, when Apple is just as guilty, if not moreso. |
=D see now ur just inviting ppl to say "apple copied pcs more than pcs copied apple vice versa." u invite all this man.
but I running now, out before bomb hits.
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yavoon
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Originally posted by Q Cubed
actually, apple copied xerox and microsoft copied apple.
at least the beginning.
now that the big bang is over, things are a bit different. |
asin intent w/ my previous post there is an important differentiation in the world of corporate copycats.
apple copied xerox who didnt make a dime. microsoft copied apple after apple made millions.
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yavoon
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microsofts claim to fame is its complete and utter dominance over apple in the business side of almost anything.
bill gates>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>steve jobs at business sense and I might not have used enuff >'s. after it acquired its dominance its clame to fame has been the manipulations and contortions of its monopoly into even more insane amts of profit.
GM in the 50's and Microsoft in the 90's.
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Kaak
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hey guys, near the top and bottom of this page, there are little buttons that say "new thread." If you push it, an amazing thing will happen. a form will pop up and you can even put in a title "apple vs MS" or "jobs vs gates," But can we please try to keep this one on topic?
Anyway, dell is also coming out with a media player, organizer type thing, much like the one on media center PCs. It is also on that page that i linked to.
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10-10-2003 07:53
xerox parc was a research park. hell, they invited apple and microsoft over.
or windows. or ie.
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