12-10-2003 06:59									#31
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I find it funny that christian fundies hate socialism even though Jesus said the "meek shall inherit the earth." Stupid hypocrites.

	12-10-2003 07:02									#32
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quote: I find it funny that christian fundies hate socialism even though Jesus said the "meek shall inherit the earth." Stupid hypocrites.

What do "the meek" have to do with socialism?

	12-10-2003 07:13									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten quote: I find it funny that christian fundies hate socialism even though Jesus said the "meek shall inherit the earth." Stupid hypocrites. What do "the meek" have to do with socialism?

Meek = Common hard working people getting paid shite while the Corporate big-wigs get tons of $$$ each year. If Jesus was alive today he would be a commie.

	12-10-2003 07:31									#34
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Don't worry Odin, most of the conservatives at this site only worship the Republican Party.

	12-10-2003 07:36									#35
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quote: Originally posted by monkspider Don't worry Odin, most of the conservatives at this site only worship the Republican Party.

So true.

	12-10-2003 08:07									#36
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quote: I find it funny that christian fundies hate socialism even though Jesus said the "meek shall inherit the earth." Stupid hypocrites.

quote: Meek = Common hard working people getting paid shite while the Corporate big-wigs get tons of $$$ each year. If Jesus was alive today he would be a commie.

The leaps in logic you make interpreting the Bible are matched only by the Fundies. Meek doesn't mean the common man today and the word back then (in greek of course) meant wise and disciplined, not humble and restrained (which is what it means today). The word's origin comes from horse training and a horse that was "meek" was smart and disciplined...

	12-10-2003 08:35									#37
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Oh brother, so now Jesus was talking about a horse? You libs get wackier and wackier.

	12-10-2003 23:27									#38
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@ Berz

	13-10-2003 03:48									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Berzerker The leaps in logic you make interpreting the Bible are matched only by the Fundies. Meek doesn't mean the common man today and the word back then (in greek of course) meant wise and disciplined, not humble and restrained (which is what it means today). The word's origin comes from horse training and a horse that was "meek" was smart and disciplined...

(1) Jesus spoke Aramaic, not greek.
(2)Perhaps you could enlighten by naming the greek word you're referring to?

	13-10-2003 04:37									#40
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While we're at it, there weren't any "corporate bigwigs" in ancient Jerusalem either, so I'd say they're even. Anyway, I suspect that he's referring to the fact that most of our NT comes from Greek translations, which would presumptively have used the most appropriate word.
Also note that "inheriting the earth" doesn't automatically mean bloody Marxist revolution or whatever. The more sensible interpretation would be to read it as a reference to the general resurrection. Also, note that Christianity has messages of turning the other cheek, forbearing in times of suffering, "slaves, obey your masters," etc. The early disciples, as recorded in Acts, did live in communes of sorts, but the giving wasn't forced as it is under communism. Just to forestall the S.A.B.s, and the Commie Annotated Bible if there is one, and any others out there, Ananias (I think that was his name) and his wife were not struck dead for failing to share, but for lying and saying that they did. That particular argument is based on a hasty and apparently biased reading..

	13-10-2003 05:48									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Dr Strangelove (2)Perhaps you could enlighten by naming the greek word you're referring to?

The Greek word is praos. "Meek" comes from ye olde englishe.

http://www.truthmagazine.com/archiv...17/TM017550.htm

	13-10-2003 06:19									#42
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as I said in the other thread, I will personally bring down all western religions.

I would bring down all religions, but it's not politically correct to assail Islam.

	13-10-2003 07:37									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Dr Strangelove (1) Jesus spoke Aramaic, not greek. (2)Perhaps you could enlighten by naming the greek word you're referring to?

But the Gospels were mostly written in Greek, so what Jesus spoke isn't all that relevant here. I think berzerker is in the right here, there's a really bizarre tendency among people of all stripes (even non-Christians) to think that just because something is good that Jesus must have been for it 100%.

	13-10-2003 08:45									#44
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quote: Originally posted by Static Universe The Greek word is praos. "Meek" comes from ye olde englishe. http://www.truthmagazine.com/archiv...17/TM017550.htm

So meek means mild mannered, patient, gentle, kind, and not seeking to cause trouble. That is not the same as wise and disciplined. They're certainly not mutually exclusive, but not the same.

	13-10-2003 08:51									#45
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God, some people here form both sides are really hung up on communism..give it ai break. NO, Christianity does not advocate communism: communism (OK, Marxism) is a modern socio-economic theory developed out of the works of the Enlightenment. But Christianity is not very capitalism firendly either, and capitalism itself is an economic theory that is a product of the Enlightenment. So bacisally, the Bible is not on either side, and if someone like Pat Robertson associates Christianity with Capitalism, he is a bigger idiot than I thought.

	13-10-2003 09:10									#46
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Don't you love these fundamentalist concepts. I was reading Rapture Ready (I swear just because it brings a lot of news sources together), and I got the following two lines in the same commentary:

"Jesus is the only One who can save people from their sins. At some point, we have to risk offending others by telling them that their god is inferior to the God of the Bible."

"Man’s sinful desire to bring Planet Earth together as one has never died."

...so basically, everyone should worship Jesus to be saved, but by doing so they place themselves in eternal damnation