28-08-2000 18:57									#31
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Fiera, for the flag of the Holy Roman Empire you can use a black eagle on yellow ground. This was used by the Staufer, an old German family of aristokrats (many medieval Geman kings/HRE emperors were from this family, for instance Friedrich I. "Barbarossa").

I think in some flag collections are such flags.

	28-08-2000 20:21									#32
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Yeah, thanks. At the beginning of my scn, the Emperor was Friedrich II. I believe he came from that family, but aren't they called the 'Hohenstaufen'?

	29-08-2000 03:32									#33
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Don't forget to put in Sardinia the Arborea's family... Why you spaniards always forget about the over one hundred year wars to conquer Sardinia ?

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My mother's family surname is Fois, so... great work, JGV.
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Glad i could help you in your Pizarro project...

	29-08-2000 03:42									#34
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Hi, there, Prometeus!

I was looking forward to your opinion on my project! I'm not forgetting about Sardinia... there will be four cities in it, all of them Objectives, and I plan to make its conquest very hard...

So you come from a Catalonian family, don't you? I think you'll find very interesting to play my scn as the Aragonese...

	29-08-2000 04:31									#35
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Fiera, what platform is this going to be available on? MGE? FW?

	29-08-2000 05:25									#36
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Oops! Forgot to say that!

It will be FW. I guess most people will be able to open it.

	30-08-2000 04:34									#37
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After nearly two day of system chrashes and slooow net connections Iīm happy to be back here at Apolyton...

Fiera, great to hear that the scn is for FW
For the emperorīs family they use in some history books the expression the "Staufer", I think itīs a short form of the title "von Hohenstaufen", so it is the same name (but Iīm not completely sure about that)

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	30-08-2000 04:54									#38
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Hi, BeBro, good to see you're back!

Yes, they must be the same family. It's just that I never had heard 'Staufer' before.

I've took your Empire flag from Cross&Crescent, as well as your French flag, which were both very good. I hope you don't mind.
[This message has been edited by Fiera (edited August 29, 2000).]

	30-08-2000 06:05									#39
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The flags were only a bit modified by me, but I have forgotten where I found them, so I canīt credit the creator (at first I thought it was J.Balsinde, but Iīm not sure...) but, however, this person hasnīt complained about the use of these flags until now, so you probably have the permission...

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[This message has been edited by BeBro (edited August 29, 2000).]

	04-09-2000 00:46									#40
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Hi there again!
I'm sorry but I've spent most of this week studying for my exam and I haven't been able to reach a playtesteable stage yet.

I still have to do all the events and the pedia but it won't be long, so... stay tuned!

	09-09-2000 17:53									#42
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OK, then you can always play as the Castilians and kick those Aragonese in the ass...

Update note: I'm working on the last details of the scn now that I have free time. Hope it will be available very soon.

	09-09-2000 18:03									#43
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Good news, Fiera. Canīt wait to play it!

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	14-09-2000 20:48									#44
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Why not? After all, i can do to Aragonese sims the same thing my ancestors did to them...