20-10-2003 03:36									#31
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What's a commie like me doing on WinMX with all the right wing nutjobs ?

	20-10-2003 04:02									#32
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I use Kazaa occasionally. No 30 gig mp3 collection though.

	20-10-2003 04:03									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Shi Huangdi Kazaa Lite forever!

	20-10-2003 04:10									#34
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I use eMule for large files, KazaaLite for smaller ones.

	20-10-2003 04:23									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor What's a commie like me doing on WinMX with all the right wing nutjobs ?

I resent that remark

	20-10-2003 05:11									#36
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Bit Torrent and SoulSeek for me.

	20-10-2003 06:55									#37
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Poisoned (Fastrack, OpenFT, Gnutella) and Aquisition (Gnutella).

	20-10-2003 07:31									#38
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bittorrent, soulseek, soribada.

	20-10-2003 07:33									#39
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i stopped stealing music a long time ago. even when i was using napster and kazaa, i usually stuck to either bootleg live tracks (copyright laws are slightly different in that instance), or stuff i legitimately owned to begin with, just too lazy to rip from the cd.

	20-10-2003 07:53									#40
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i mostly try to find stuff outside the riaa's jurisdiction. importing is kinda difficult.

	20-10-2003 08:08									#41
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I would also like to go on record as saying I'm generally not stealing music when using p2p. Not due to morals - but due to the fact that there is precious little decent music being released.

	20-10-2003 08:47									#42
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No one mentions Hotlines? It can't be that rare!

But it was one of the first true file sharing programs out there, first for Mac, then came out later for PC. Was a great program and still is very big today.

	20-10-2003 09:17									#43
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musicians work hard for their money, and the recording contracts don't generally allow much for the artists. it's expected that they'll make up in merchandise and concert sales, but the record company is the only thing that makes money from record sales. even so... it's about supporting the groups you like, and keeing the riff-raff out.

	20-10-2003 09:24									#44
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quote: Originally posted by Osweld Leaches will destroy the file sharing programs alot sooner then the RIAA every will.

Not true. There are tons of members who are not located in the US and so who are not subject to US laws. These people will offer plenty of content.

	20-10-2003 12:05									#45
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Only 400 lawsuits? I like dem odds.

	20-10-2003 13:26									#46
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quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns I would also like to go on record as saying I'm generally not stealing music when using p2p. Not due to morals - but due to the fact that there is precious little decent music being released.

Same here... it's been more than a year since I last downloaded some music... and about the same time since I last bought a CD... still waiting for some descent music to be released...

	20-10-2003 13:40									#47
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quote: What's a commie like me doing on WinMX with all the right wing nutjobs ?

I'm on MX too.
I stopped using kazaa(lite) because my ISP seems to partially block it (=very slow) and because MX offers better file integrity though slightly less choice.

	20-10-2003 16:19									#48
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i left kazaa once it incorporated spyware, because roughly around that time, it began to eat up so many resources that it wasn't worth running.

winmx doesn't have much in the way of asian pop.

	20-10-2003 16:30									#49
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin Not true. There are tons of members who are not located in the US and so who are not subject to US laws. These people will offer plenty of content.

About every leecher I discussed with leeches out of greed rather than out of fear. Now way they waste some of their precious bandwisth for unknown people of the internet. Of course, they don't want to know that other people are actually wasting their bandwidth for other people on the Internet, and that it is the only way for a P2P program to work.

	20-10-2003 16:52									#50
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quote: About every leecher I discussed with leeches out of greed rather than out of fear. Now way they waste some of their precious bandwisth for unknown people of the internet. Of course, they don't want to know that other people are actually wasting their bandwidth for other people on the Internet, and that it is the only way for a P2P program to work.

eh, not quite. i share a small folder and the download folder--and keep the big library folder out of reach.

not because of bandwidth--i already have that set at a limit. it's because it'll eat into my clock cycles, them having to search through all 21gb of my mp3s.

	20-10-2003 17:40									#51
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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed not because of bandwidth--i already have that set at a limit. it's because it'll eat into my clock cycles, them having to search through all 21gb of my mp3s.

I hope one day P2P programs will be able to create a few bytes big file that lists shared files. It is my main beef with WinMX too: everybody loses humongous time looking for files because there is no WinMX-generated file summing up what you have

	20-10-2003 17:43									#52
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leaching has little to do with how much you share, it's about how much bandwidth you devote to uploading in comparison to how much you download.

	20-10-2003 18:21									#53
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quote: leaching has little to do with how much you share, it's about how much bandwidth you devote to uploading in comparison to how much you download.

sucks when you're on dialup, as i am at home.

	20-10-2003 19:45									#54
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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed winmx doesn't have much in the way of asian pop.

thats weird. Al lthe japanese people I know use the MX.

	20-10-2003 19:52									#55
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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed quote: leaching has little to do with how much you share, it's about how much bandwidth you devote to uploading in comparison to how much you download. sucks when you're on dialup, as i am at home.

Not really, because then you can't download much either. That's why i said in comparison, someone who's downloading at 60kb/sec and has uploading capped at 10kb/sec, for instance.

	20-10-2003 19:59									#56
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quote: thats weird. Al lthe japanese people I know use the MX.

maybe i should give it a shot again, then. when i tried mx a while back, a year ago or so, i couldn't find anything. could be the romanization problem...

	20-10-2003 20:10									#57
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I use P2P mostly for TV shows and sometimes for movies, hardly for music or software (anymore).

I don't get why eDonkey/eMule is so popular. I agree the technology is superior to Kazaa, but the download speeds suck. I rarely get more than 20 kb/s, while on Kazaa (Lite) I regularly get over 100 kb/s, sometimes even as much as ~400 kb/s. It usually takes me weeks to download a movie with eMule, and only a few days to get that same movie with Kazaa (though Kazaa does tend to have a lot more fakes).

Must be my location in the network...

	20-10-2003 20:12									#58
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quote: Originally posted by Locutus I use P2P mostly for TV shows and sometimes for movies, hardly for music or software (anymore). I don't get why eDonkey/eMule is so popular. I agree the technology is superior to Kazaa, but the download speeds suck. I rarely get more than 20 kb/s, while on Kazaa (Lite) I regularly get over 100 kb/s, sometimes even as much as ~400 kb/s. It usually takes me weeks to download a movie with eMule, and only a few days to get that same movie with Kazaa (though Kazaa does tend to have a lot more fakes). Must be my location in the network...

yea, it can take a while to get files on eDonkey sometimes. It isn't what it used to be, it's gotten bogged down with leachers and 90% of the people on it have their upload capped at 10.

	20-10-2003 20:25									#59
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i use soulseek. i found its the best program for full electro albums by mandroid, 8 bit rockers, bass junkie, dopplereffekt, japanese telecom, etc etc

	20-10-2003 21:09									#60
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diet KaZaA for me. I tried eDonkey and never found anything I wanted. I tried WinMX and never found anything at all. It just wasted cycles doing nothing. I tried Limewire, and never got anything worth having. Wasn't very impressed with eDonkey.

These days I just keep KaZaA closed unless I want to dowload. Even so, far more stuff is downloaded from me than I get.