25-10-2003 19:02									#1
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I mean, Kurt's mother has gained her custody, but that still means that her childhood years were spent being parented by Courtney Love. There are many things that would probably make a better parent than Courtney, including a pack of wild mongooses, a rock, Adolf Hitler, and possibly even Michael Jackson. Not to mention that her father shot himself, there are still many creepy Nirvana fans worshipping her, and in six years or so (or sooner) some music executive will practically force a guitar in her hands and catapult her to a music world hungry for some 90s nostalgia.

Poor Frances. Is there a semblance of hope for her to achieve a life of any normality?

	25-10-2003 19:05									#2
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they named their daughter Bean??

	25-10-2003 19:21									#3
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It should be remembered, that Frances' grandmother is the person that made Kurt's life so wonderfull that Kurt offed himself.

If find it very distubing that your children can be taken from you for a drug possession charge.

	26-10-2003 11:31									#4
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normally I would agree with you Che.

But she wasn't just possessing them. She was high on drugs. Do you think someone who is high on drugs can properly parent their kids? You commies are something else. Though if it was maryjane, that is nothing. But I'm sure she takes heavier drugs than that.

Add in the fact she is suicidal and you have a bad parent.

	26-10-2003 12:07									#5
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara It should be remembered, that Frances' grandmother is the person that made Kurt's life so wonderfull that Kurt offed himself. If find it very distubing that your children can be taken from you for a drug possession charge.

Funny, according to at least some interesting conspiracy theory, Kurt didn't off himself, but in any event, he was a ways away from being able to blame mommie dearest for his problems at that point in his life.

And ol' Courtney, who has never been the model of mental stability, didn't "possess" she flat out OD'd and had to be hospitalized. Not exactly the best state in which to take care of a minor.

	26-10-2003 12:09									#6
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commies always like to distort the facts to fit their ideology

And by that logic. Curt Cobain never offed himself when he was living with his mother. He only offed himself after moving in with Courtney Love. Love was the person who made his life a miserable hell.

So the choice who the baby should be with is obvious. Yep, you guessed it. David Hasselhoff.

	26-10-2003 14:13									#7
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indeed, MTG. funny how a sucide note is written in two different styles...

	26-10-2003 19:12									#8
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Yes, she will be "forced" to become a musician and she will probably have a carefully crafted hit, just once, only to disappear again and get drowned in drugs and things like that. It's sad, it's predictable and it's boring the hell out of me.

	26-10-2003 19:26									#9
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The whole Cobain suicide is just a thing made up by depressed fans. I've read documents on the case... there are many proofs that it was a murder, and not a single proof that it was suicide.

	26-10-2003 19:32									#10
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quote: Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat in any event, he was a ways away from being able to blame mommie dearest for his problems at that point in his life.

He wasn't that old, MtG. IIRC, he was only in his 20s, whih is still young enough to be suffering from depression from your upbringing.

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27 he was... but any problems he had at the time surely were his own fault. I think 27 is old enough to live one's life...

	26-10-2003 19:59									#12
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It is, but deep seated depression frequently stems from childhood issues.

	26-10-2003 20:05									#13
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Deep depression is often a sign of a morally weak person.

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Going to back that comment up (he asked, expecting the answer to be "no")?

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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara He wasn't that old, MtG. IIRC, he was only in his 20s, whih is still young enough to be suffering from depression from your upbringing.

He was 27, but I'd be hard pressed to imagine anything more depressing than being hitched to Courtney Love. Hell, if I was given a choice between Gitmo and getting hitched to ol' Courtney and having to put up with her...

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I've met the bloke Courtney Love lost her virginity to. According to her, anyway. He strenuously denies it.

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quote: Originally posted by Solver Deep depression is often a sign of a morally weak person.

**** you, *******!

	27-10-2003 00:41									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Solver Deep depression is often a sign of a morally weak person.

Come on, Solver, it wasn't even funny.

	27-10-2003 01:27									#19
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what do you mean by "morally weak"?

	27-10-2003 01:45									#20
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Is there any hope for any of us?

	27-10-2003 02:03									#21
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quote: Originally posted by asleepathewheel Is there any hope for any of us?

I dunno, are you Courtney's son too?

	27-10-2003 02:08									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Alex I dunno, are you Courtney's son too?

What's it to you?

	27-10-2003 02:08									#23
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the kid should still have plenty of money.

While he (or is it a she?) has a terrible name, they will be rich.

And will turn out to be another spoiled rich kid.

	27-10-2003 02:10									#24
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I read somewhere that mommie dearest drowned a roommate's kitten in a fit of anger. Doesn't bode well for the little Bean.

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Now that's a killin' offense. (I'm dead serious too. Mess with mine and...)

Trouble is, with any "celebrity" stuff, 99% plus of what you hear in either direction is crap.

	27-10-2003 02:34									#26
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quote: Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat Now that's a killin' offense. (I'm dead serious too. Mess with mine and...)

Yep, I reckon I agree with ya. I will bring down the wrath of the almighty if anyone messes with me or mine.

quote: Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat Trouble is, with any "celebrity" stuff, 99% plus of what you hear in either direction is crap.

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Yep, especially since 99%+ of the people who claim to have knowledge of these celebrities are people no one has ever met nor heard of nor spoken to. Gives us nobodies someone in common to talk about, though.