26-10-2003 03:18									#1
	Why arent there any Catholic Christian rock groups? Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

"And you were cast into the lake of fire fore all eteeeeeeeeerrrrrrniiiiiity!"



What would their top songs be?

"Burning for the lord"

"Sinners suffering forever"

"Snakes in every orrifice of the sinners body"


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	26-10-2003 03:28									#2
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Actually, I'd expect most of that to come from hardcore "Puritan" literalist Protestants, rather....

	26-10-2003 03:48									#3
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	26-10-2003 03:49									#4
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Obviously the OP was written by somebody with no idea of what Catholicism is all about. Wouldn't be the first time in this board some ignorant opened his mouth, won't be the last.

	26-10-2003 03:52									#5
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I don't think Catholic Rock would be successful. How many songs can one write about guilt and communion wafers?









P.S. I'm Catholic

	26-10-2003 03:58									#6
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yea, protestantism is all about hellfire and eternal damnation and such.

i've *never* heard a catholic priest have a sermon about hell and repenting sins or burning in fire or anything. Not once.

Though i stopped by a Baptist church once and it was the topic there. Made me uncomfortable.

	26-10-2003 04:00									#7
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Are you sure there aren't any? Last time I looked none of the Chrisitan Rock groups wore labels with the name of their denomination on them. There could be Catholics groups, but since the belief structure is close enough to that of Protesants you might not notice a difference in the lyrics. Who knows, there might even be "gasp" mixed groups.

Say, would "The Singing Nun" count?

	26-10-2003 04:04									#8
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Deacon Rock: The Liturgical sequel to Cop Rock

	26-10-2003 04:10									#9
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The only religion that should be allowed into music is Satanism, but only as long as it stays in its own little ghetto and doesn't bother us mundanes.

	26-10-2003 04:15									#10
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I don't know if they are catholic or not , but there are many christian rock groups and even metal groups.

saviour machine is one i like.

	26-10-2003 04:16									#11
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quote: The only religion that should be allowed into music is Satanism,

What do you think 1/2 of black metal is about?

	26-10-2003 04:27									#12
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I didn't say there wasn't any silly Satanism in music.

	26-10-2003 04:37									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Dr Strangelove Say, would "The Singing Nun" count?

I read that as The Sinning Nun. Which I think would make a catchy name for a christian band.

	26-10-2003 04:53									#14
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By christian I mean protestant/catholic/orthodox whatever. Different people have different perceptions of words. In the US "Christian" means of a protestant denomination (?) as I have found out.

	26-10-2003 05:06									#15
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Only radical Protties, in my experience, use the term "Christians" to refer to Protestants. More than once I've heard the phrase "Catholics and Christians" used to the detriment of Catholics. The only group that I've heard use that phrase has been Southern Baptists.

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AFAIK, according to the Catholic Church, only the nonbeliever will go to hell. The sinner will go to the purgatory provided he's a believer.

I guess Catholic rock songs would be about how Mary kicks ass, and about so or so saint.

	26-10-2003 05:11									#17
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It doesn't follow any hard and fast rules, but when people refer to "christian rock" they mean protestant. I guess there are catholic rock bands, but I don't know any. This circumstance is probably due to a much stronger charismatic/evagelical movement among protestants. The charismatic movement among catholics died about 15 years ago and really didn't have much of a following even when it existed.

I don't think there would be any venues for a catholic christian rock band.

	26-10-2003 05:14									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Timexwatch Only radical Protties, in my experience, use the term "Christians" to refer to Protestants. More than once I've heard the phrase "Catholics and Christians" used to the detriment of Catholics. The only group that I've heard use that phrase has been Southern Baptists.

I see.

	26-10-2003 05:16									#19
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quote: Only radical Protties, in my experience, use the term "Christians" to refer to Protestants. More than once I've heard the phrase "Catholics and Christians" used to the detriment of Catholics. The only group that I've heard use that phrase has been Southern Baptists.

Well, I don't know which is more annoying to me: (1) hearing catholics or orthodox referred to apart from christianity; or (2) hearing catholicism or orthodoxy referred to as denominations.

	26-10-2003 06:41									#20
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quote: The charismatic movement among catholics died about 15 years ago and really didn't have much of a following even when it existed.

Now there's a thread topic. I don't know much about the charismatic Catholics. Care to fill me in DanS?

	26-10-2003 08:38									#21
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quote: Originally posted by DanS Well, I don't know which is more annoying to me: (1) hearing catholics or orthodox referred to apart from christianity; or (2) hearing catholicism or orthodoxy referred to as denominations.

Why shouldn't the Roman Catholic Church and the numerous Orthodox churches be refered to as denominations?

	26-10-2003 08:51									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor AFAIK, according to the Catholic Church, only the nonbeliever will go to hell. The sinner will go to the purgatory provided he's a believer. I guess Catholic rock songs would be about how Mary kicks ass, and about so or so saint.

You really shouldn't talk about something you know nothing about. The Catholic Church does not teach that all non-believers go to hell, nor does it teach that all Catholics will eventually go to heaven. It's really sad that the country once considered the eldest daughter of the Church has fallen so far.

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	26-10-2003 09:41									#24
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	26-10-2003 10:00									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Shi Huangdi You really shouldn't talk about something you know nothing about. The Catholic Church does not teach that all non-believers go to hell, nor does it teach that all Catholics will eventually go to heaven.

Yeah, I know, you're supposed to repent. That means you have to believe, no?

(oops, no, you can be repented by force before being burnt to death, but we haven't seen that recently )

quote: It's really sad that the country once considered the eldest daughter of the Church has fallen so far.

When the mother is too protective, the kids leave home earlier

	26-10-2003 10:15									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Shi Huangdi It's really sad that the country once considered the eldest daughter of the Church has fallen so far.

When was the US considered the eldest daughter of the Catholic Church?

	26-10-2003 10:17									#27
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Well, at least since " 25-10-2003 23:51 " if you go by Shi's post.

	26-10-2003 11:51									#28
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The lead singer of a band I used to like (Dark Angel) left death metal and went into a christian rock band :barf:. I think it's called Oil.

	26-10-2003 12:33									#29
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quote: Why shouldn't the Roman Catholic Church and the numerous Orthodox churches be refered to as denominations?

Because they aren't. There is one church that is currently in schism (RC, various orthodox and copts, etc.). Protestants have left the church altogether, and thus are properly referred to individually as denominations.

	26-10-2003 12:55									#30
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"When was the US considered the eldest daughter of the Catholic Church?"

It never was, I was refering to France.

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Yeah, I know, you're supposed to repent. That means you have to believe, no?"

While we certainly are good at guilt, being sorry for misdeeds is not the exclusive property of Catholics.

We don't know exactly how God will deal with unbelievers, but it is a clear teaching of the Church that hey can be saved.

Spiffor you are a smart man and I have always respected your posts, but you really ought to limit them to subjects you know more about.