28-10-2003 18:30									#1
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I'm pretty sure the answer is yes but... if we install the Conquests expansion, does that mean that the PTW version gets overwritten so you can't go back to play the earlier version of the game without re-installing. (Say, I dunno, I don't like the new assigned traits of my favorite civilizations and wanna play the way I've gotten used to playing, will I have to reinstall to get back to "normal"?)

	28-10-2003 18:35									#2
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I don't believe so. For instance, I'm currently involved in 3 different PBEM PTW games and when Conquests is released, these games will be far from over. But that's really beside the point. Since Conquests is an expansion (just like PTW), you should be able to load Conquests and then play either Conquests or PTW - Just like you can play either PTW or Civ3 Basic right now.

	28-10-2003 22:13									#3
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quote: Originally posted by mimi I'm pretty sure the answer is yes but... if we install the Conquests expansion, does that mean that the PTW version gets overwritten so you can't go back to play the earlier version of the game without re-installing. (Say, I dunno, I don't like the new assigned traits of my favorite civilizations and wanna play the way I've gotten used to playing, will I have to reinstall to get back to "normal"?)

Hi mimi,

Yes, you can choose to play under the original Play the World rules. The installation doesn't give you a shortcut or anything, but if you go in and click on the appropriate executable in the PTW directory, you can play under the older Play the World rules. You can also use this method to play MP games with other Play the World owners who do not have Civ Conquests.

Best,
Jeff Foley
Atari

	28-10-2003 23:19									#4
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Do I have to have PTW installed before installing Conquests?

	28-10-2003 23:55									#5
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Nik: No. All you need is Civ III installed before installing C3C.

	29-10-2003 00:32									#6
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OK. That sounds very good!

	30-10-2003 02:01									#7
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A follow-up question:

What happens if I buy Conquest in Europe and install it over my original Civ3 (LE) that I bought in the USA (Amazon.com)? Will it work or are there differences that will prohibit correct functioning?

	30-10-2003 11:35									#8
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As far as I know european conquest will work with the american version of CivIII. (Finally!!!) Which is nice since I have the american version of civIII as well and live in europe.

	30-10-2003 14:06									#9
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quote: A follow-up question: What happens if I buy Conquest in Europe and install it over my original Civ3 (LE) that I bought in the USA (Amazon.com)? Will it work or are there differences that will prohibit correct functioning?

Not the first time to be asked.
It does seem Jeff Jefftity Jeff (sorry, couldn't resist ), is very quick to answer any question regarding C3C, which of corse is very much appreciated .
However, AFAIK, there still has not been one single official comment regarding installing C3C on PTW/CIV3 when it comes to different versions (US/English...)

Could we get some kind of official answer please.

	30-10-2003 14:15									#10
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Well PTW has it's own folder like Civ3 (I think it can draw on stuff from the civ3 folder though). I would expect Conquests would also have it's own folder...which is inclusive of PTW anyway...

	30-10-2003 18:40									#11
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What I'd like to know is whether C3C will allow us to play PtW in a LAN i.e. PtW on one PC and C3C on another?

	30-10-2003 18:41									#12
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quote: Originally posted by SpencerH What I'd like to know is whether C3C will allow us to play PtW in a LAN i.e. PtW on one PC and C3C on another?

hi ,

yes but only on a PTW level , not on a C3C , .....

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	31-10-2003 05:30									#13
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Will I have to update to 1.29f (IIRC) first?

	31-10-2003 08:20									#14
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Shouldn't have to (It would probably come with a patch for regular Civ3, besides, what about the poor people who've never heard of the internet?)

	31-10-2003 17:55									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Wittlich I don't believe so. For instance, I'm currently involved in 3 different PBEM PTW games and when Conquests is released, these games will be far from over. But that's really beside the point. Since Conquests is an expansion (just like PTW), you should be able to load Conquests and then play either Conquests or PTW - Just like you can play either PTW or Civ3 Basic right now.

Bloody marvellous.

It is good to think that the program could be intelligent.

	31-10-2003 21:33									#16
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quote: Originally posted by alva [q] However, AFAIK, there still has not been one single official comment regarding installing C3C on PTW/CIV3 when it comes to different versions (US/English...) Could we get some kind of official answer please.

I would like to know this too.

	31-10-2003 23:44									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Hagbart I would like to know this too.

I doubt you'll know until you buy the game.

	31-10-2003 23:49									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Changmai Beagle Will I have to update to 1.29f (IIRC) first?

hi ,

most likely the disk will have the last patch

Firaxis

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	01-11-2003 05:43									#19
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quote: Originally posted by panag hi , most likely the disk will have the last patch Firaxis have a nice day

Ok, good point...

But how long do you think it will take them before they need to put out a patch for Conquests?

	01-11-2003 05:49									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Paddy the Scot Ok, good point... But how long do you think it will take them before they need to put out a patch for Conquests?

hi ,

well last year some-one at Firaxis woke up with a dream , .....

one of the main points in Conquests is that it shall not require a patch , .....

now lets give them the benefit of the doubt and watch and see what happens , .....

it has been mentioned before and rumour control has picked up this one also , ...... it has been achieved before , but its a huge task , ....

can they , can they not , it remains to be seen , patience , patience , .....


have a nice day

	01-11-2003 06:13									#21
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quote: Originally posted by panag hi , well last year some-one at Firaxis woke up with a dream , ..... one of the main points in Conquests is that it shall not require a patch , ..... now lets give them the benefit of the doubt and watch and see what happens , ..... it has been mentioned before and rumour control has picked up this one also , ...... it has been achieved before , but its a huge task , .... can they , can they not , it remains to be seen , patience , patience , ..... have a nice day

It is my opinion that they would never be able to sell to the PlayStation / game console market.... for there is no opportunity to download corrections on those games...

I live to see if they have got their collective together, pulled the old finger out, and built a one stop shop.

It would be so great to buy the finished product.

	01-11-2003 10:03									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Paddy the Scot It is my opinion that they would never be able to sell to the PlayStation / game console market.... for there is no opportunity to download corrections on those games... I live to see if they have got their collective together, pulled the old finger out, and built a one stop shop. It would be so great to buy the finished product.

Couldn't agree with you more. The way things are these days one has to be careful even when purchasing a PS2 game. Sad really. Rush product out the door because profits are the bottom line. It's the nature of the beast.

	01-11-2003 10:57									#23
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The main problem most PC games is due to all the hardware variants. That does not exist on a console.

	01-11-2003 11:03									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Cookie Monster Couldn't agree with you more. The way things are these days one has to be careful even when purchasing a PS2 game. Sad really. Rush product out the door because profits are the bottom line. It's the nature of the beast.

The beast should be taken out the back, and drawn and quartered....

Thieves scoundrels and cut throats...

and so say I as I try to negotiate to get my hands on a copy of Conquests as soon as I can....

They have me programmed like a rerun of Max Smart... Down the stairs, through the doors... then right back at the one that did not close behind me on time... Just to get my nose caught... (well my wallet caught in the cash register... )

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quote: Originally posted by vmxa1 The main problem most PC games is due to all the hardware variants. That does not exist on a console.

Well said, with all my posturing etc, that was one point (possibly of many) that I had not looked at.

Thank you for bringing balance to the discussion.

	01-11-2003 22:30									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Paddy the Scot It is my opinion that they would never be able to sell to the PlayStation / game console market.... for there is no opportunity to download corrections on those games... I live to see if they have got their collective together, pulled the old finger out, and built a one stop shop. It would be so great to buy the finished product.

hi ,

psp and other console games are often full of holes , ....

and why play on a console that has not nearly the specs of a comp , .....

the benefit of patches is that when something is wrong you can change it at ones , .....

go PC games


a finished product is nearly always impossible , software has to change with the enviroment that changes all the time , look at a patch as an adaptation to a change in enviroment , .....

have a nice day

	04-11-2003 19:16									#27
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Just a stupid question... if I install conquest on a civ III
that dont have PTW, will I have everything that was on PTW or i have to buy PTW as well

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quote: Originally posted by Toaster4k Just a stupid question... if I install conquest on a civ III that dont have PTW, will I have everything that was on PTW or i have to buy PTW as well

It will give you everything that was on PTW

	04-11-2003 19:23									#29
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wow that was a fast response

thanks

now i happy i did not but TPW yet

	04-11-2003 20:13									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Feephi It will give you everything that was on PTW

that's great! I dont't wanna use money on PTW.
So it means that if I buy Conquest, I can still play against folks that has only the PTW if i choose PTW mode?