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Catfish
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Wollongong, Australia
Aug 2000
time: 14:31
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I don’t really want to add fuel to the fire here, but a few comments about copyright grabbed my attention:
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Originally posted by thorgrimm
…thats his problem unless he has a copyright on his scen he does not own it The people who bought out microprose do!!! |
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Originally posted by techumseh
When I was a newbie around here, I witnessed the debates when Alex the Magnificent tried to claim copyright on his artwork and even tried to SELL his scenarios (those were the days of Glastnost, I guess  ) Alex conceded defeat, and the current understanding has been in place ever since. |
I just read Hasbro’s EULA for Civ2 ToT and couldn’t find any clause that explicitly claims copyright ownership of any material produced for or by its software. There is, however, a paragraph which states the following:
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OWNERSHIP; COPYRIGHT: Title to the CD-ROM and the Documentation, and patents, copyrights and all other property rights applicable thereto, shall at all times remain solely and exclusively with Hasbro Interactive and its licensors… |
From this and other sections of the agreement, it is clear that the contents of the CD-ROM and trademarks are protected. However, it is not clear what "patents, copyrights and all other property rights applicable thereto" covers – in fact it’s a circular statement in some respects.
My assumption is that the company will not claim copyright of other people’s scenarios, graphics and sounds. Therefore, irrespective of whether or not the creator/designer states copyright ownership, by the laws of most countries, ownership defaults to the creator/designer.
This means that Exile does in fact own the copyright to his scenarios and has a right to determine their distribution and use. Similarly, Alex and in fact all other graphics artists, have copyright ownership of their work. However, considering the way the Civ2 community operates, I must admit Alex’s behaviour sounds a bit anal, but he’s entitled to it.
The way I see it, all graphics posted in various showcase forums are free to use unless otherwise stated by the author, but acknowledgement is required – this seems to be an agreement by all. On the other hand, I believe that distribution of a modified scenario requires prior permission from the author. It’s simply common courtesy anyway. If you can’t contact the original author and proceed regardless, don’t be offended when you are asked to cease and desist if he/she later finds out. It’s just plain bad luck.
Just my 2 cents worth.
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Cyrion
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Caught somewhere in time
Jan 2002
time: 06:31
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Originally posted by Exile
On a related note, does anyone else besides me suspect that this is yet another soundwave DL? He sure does have the tone of a soundwave DL. |
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Originally posted by Case
The writing style does look spookily familiar 
[though I accept Tech's findings of different IPs]
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I rather doubt it for 2 reasons:
1) there are not enough language mistakes! (sorry Sean, but your english is sometimes sooo difficult to understand... )
2) If I remember well, Soundwave didn't actually insult Exile like Thorgrimm did; even if the conversation grew "hot" and far from nice, it was much more "polite" than this one! Of course, as I wasn't really involved, my memory might be playing tricks and Exile surely does remember it more clearly than I do! 
And BTW, yes, I think that before making a modification of a scen public, you should ask the author (who, of course, should say that it's ok! just kidding... )
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