29-10-2003 14:11									#1
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What should the two workers on the Horse tile do now? Help road and irrigate the flood plains for our 3rd city? Start roading and preping tiles for city #4?

I offered to Tabemono(Klorrep and ZargonX) the deal as prescribed by Togas, the only problem is that they lack Writing. We'd have to "loan" it to them. They indicated they would pay us back in future tech points.

I was also contacted by MAST (Arnelos) and they want to do a 3 way tech alliance with Tabemono and us. That along with a NAP and border agreements that all three teams can agree to. The idea MAST presented is that since we have plenty of room on our land mass, we can cooperate to try and get ahead of the other Continent (if there is one). The other Continent may not have been so lucky and the Civ's may be close together and thus are more likely to be fighting in the future than working together.

	30-10-2003 00:51									#2
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I have my doubts there is another land mass. We have uncovered a lot both east-west and north-south and found very little coast. There is a lot more to this land mass.

A tech alliance and NAP would be good. It will help us concentrate on what we need to do to build and foster better cooperation. My concern is that we do not know enough about our landmass to develop a good border agreement. MAST should have explored a lot more than us so that will give them an advantage. We should look at a temporary agreement for the short term with a more permanent agreement once we have uncovered more of the land mass.

	30-10-2003 00:59									#3
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Sheesh! They need writing too?! I should have figured.

Regarding 3-way tech alliance. Sounds fine to me, but maybe we should have them throw in their WMs as a part of the trades, and cease all further exploration. Let them do it for us while we expand.

Our score is very low and we need to expand badly. Let us agree to peaceful cooperation and focus our early efforts on SEX. So long as we're helping them on research we won't be a target.

We may also want to get them to band together against Latin Lover, who seems to be ahead of us all.

--Togas

	30-10-2003 01:02									#4
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My rec is that we use the worker to road towards the southern cow city.

--Togas

	30-10-2003 01:16									#5
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When I submitted my turn orders some time back for Suntanland to build a warrior after the worker I was looking ahead for our cities needs of protection and happiness control. It won't be too long and we will need at least 4 units. We currently have only two in the cities. The rest are either exploring or hunting barbarians, which are both tasks that we will continue to need to do for some time to come. I guess no one read my initial post in the Growing Empire thread about barracks in the two new cities or my later post in that thread that said I wanted to put a granary in Suntanland.

If it is not too late I would like to change Suntanland back to a warrior or maybe a chariot. I don't normally build chariots, anyone know what they cost?

	30-10-2003 02:32									#6
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Chariots cost 20 shields, same as archers. It not too late to change the build in Suntanland from a barracks to Chariot.

	30-10-2003 20:14									#7
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MoBH:

Please change Suntanland to produce a charriot. Suntanland should be working the mined-shielded grassland to the north and the horse plains.

Please send/post a save so I can checkout our cities and do some planning. I would like to do that this weekend. If a new save does not come soon please send the last one. Thanks.

	31-10-2003 01:31									#8
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I did not change the WF in Suntanland to use the Horse Plain tile yet. It would delay the Settler in Sunshinia. I want the settler to finish and Sunshinia to grow at same time.

Here's the save file: http://apolyton.net/upload/files/Bi...hine_1830bc.sav

	31-10-2003 06:04									#9
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quote: Originally posted by BigFree I did not change the WF in Suntanland to use the Horse Plain tile yet. It would delay the Settler in Sunshinia. I want the settler to finish and Sunshinia to grow at same time.

OK. I did not realize that Sunshina was using that tile.