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chegitz guevara
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Ft. Lauderdale, FL Communist Party of Apolyton
Jun 2000
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Joe Conason's Journal
Bush's latest lie, blaming the USS Lincoln crew for that embarrassing "Mission Accomplished" banner that was stage-managed by his aides, isn't surprising. The entitled always blame the enlisted.
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Oct. 28, 2003 | The entitled and the enlisted
When George W. Bush is prevaricating, he often utters a little wisecrack. At today's press briefing, when he was asked about that now-embarrassing "Mission Accomplished" banner on the USS Lincoln, he pinned that premature boast on the crew and then delivered his quip.
"I know [the banner] was attributed somehow to some ingenious advance man from my staff," said Bush. "They weren't that ingenious, by the way." Heh heh. Over at John Kerry's headquarters, the rapid response team quickly fired off a rebuke to Bush, scolding him for trying to "blame" the sailors for the sign. The Kerry press release includes this paragraph from Elizabeth Bumiller's report on White House image-making in the New York Times May 16:
"The most elaborate -- and criticized -- White House event so far was Mr. Bush's speech aboard the Abraham Lincoln announcing the end of major combat in Iraq. White House officials say that a variety of people, including the president, came up with the idea, and that [White House communications deputy Scott] Sforza embedded himself on the carrier to make preparations days before Mr. Bush's landing in a flight suit and his early evening speech. Media strategists noted afterward that Mr. Sforza and his aides had choreographed every aspect of the event, even down to the members of the Lincoln crew arrayed in coordinated shirt colors over Mr. Bush's right shoulder and the "Mission Accomplished" banner placed to perfectly capture the president and the celebratory two words in a single shot."
There's nothing surprising about this cheap little lie. The entitled always blame the enlisted. It's the American aristocratic way.
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Man, this guy just can't stop lying, can he? Maybe he's a pathological liar? 
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lord of the mark
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FUKCOV - Former United Kingdom Colony of Virginia
Dec 2000
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quote:
Originally posted by chegitz guevara
From left to right:
radical - progressive - liberal - moderate - conservative - reactionary
A radical liberal makes as much sense as a reactionary moderate. |
I dunno - depends in part on how you use radical - you can use it to mean far left, or more literally to mean someone intent on solving a problem at its roots, to take decisive action, etc. One can then speak of the radical right, and, as some have done recently, the "radical center" Paul Berman, in his "Terror and Liberalism" uses it more or less that way.
I dont think sloww was using it that way though.  Following conservatives since Agnew, at least, he was leaving out progressive as a category, so that liberal and radical are adjacent.
Progressive could move around - while in contemporary US politics it means someone to the left of a liberal and to the right of Marxists and other radicals, at one time it was used by Stalinist fellow travelers - OTOH at another time it was used as a euphemism for the "L" word. So its position is ambivalent as well.
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Boulder, CO USA
Apr 2001
time: 05:31
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Back to the "Mission Accomplished" sign:
What Bush said about the soldiers putting it up is true. Where it came from, however, is another story: The Navy asked the White House about it, the White House loved the idea and had the sign manufactured and brought on board. The soldiers put it up. Who paid for the manufacture of the sign is unclear at this point.
Bush is trying to distance himself from any association of the mission being "accomplished", especially considering that at the time of his press conference, we were one combat death away from equality before and after the aircraft carrier speech. That is, the number of combat deaths since then is now greater than the number of combat deaths until that point.
When Bush tells the press and public that it wasn't his idea to put up the sign, he's being a little misleading. What he said was true -- it wasn't his administration's idea, but his administration took the idea and made it happen, so it's not as if Bush appeared on the aircraft carrier and didn't know the sign was going to be there.
The media would be far smarter to have already found video of a speech right about that time in which Bush verbally praised the soldiers for a "mission accomplished".
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lord of the mark
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FUKCOV - Former United Kingdom Colony of Virginia
Dec 2000
time: 00:31
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quote:
Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
And you are a political scientist, che?
The real spectrum goes like this.
Communist - Liberal - Moderate - Conservative - Fascist
Fascism is a reactionary conservatism, while Communists are radical Liberals, ie, more liberal than then Liberals.
I don't see why you have moderate listed on the conservative side of the spectrum. |
cause he has 6 terms instead of 5, and he is, naturally, cutting things finer on the left then on the right. Be glad he didnt introduce social democrats, democratic socialists, trotskites, or anarchists. Of course then it wouldnt be so linear either. Which i think it really isnt. I think of there as being a real difference in class base and emphasis between liberals and Social democrats, which doesnt really make one to the "left" of the other. Similarly i think fascism is something rather different than simply a very reactionary variety of conservatiism - it broke with classical european reactionary politics in its attitude to class, mass mobilization, etc.
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