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SlowwHand
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of The Cooler
Sep 1999
time: 23:31
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The spectrum of degrees involving liberal to conservative was being discussed within a thread, and the thought occured to me that the need for discussion required it's own separate and distinct thread.
Radical Liberals and Radical Conservatives, are so unknowingly close to each other, they're about to bump asses.
Let me tell you why.
Most people envision this spectum as linear, moving from Left to Right.
The concept that I present to you now, is much the same as early exploration marking the difference between a flat world, and a round world.
Liberal-------------Moderate-------------Conservative.
I don't think the increments and terminology used between either point and Moderate is that critical.
What's critical is the addition of Radical, which follows.
Rad Lib----Liberal-----Moderate----Consevative---Rad Con
Now, rather than in the linear example we see above, make it circular.
In this manner you'll see that the Radicals becomes adjoined.
I'll stop here and let the analysts analyze, and we can go from there.
What do you think? Am I making myself clear as mud, again? 
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yavoon
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Originally posted by chegitz guevara
God, now you're gonna get the Libertarians all hot and bothered. |
thats akin to pissing off the hermaphrodites.
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chegitz guevara
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Ft. Lauderdale, FL Communist Party of Apolyton
Jun 2000
time: 00:31
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quote:
Originally posted by SlowwHand
As I said in an aside in the other thread, reactionaries occupy both "sides". |
Yes, but this implies you have a fundimental misunderstanding of what reactionary means. A reactionary is someone who wanted to go socially, politically, economically, religiously backwards in time. What we have today has gone to far, we need to go back to a simpler, more moral, etc. time.
So, many of the people who have seized control of the Republican Party are reactionaries. They want to return the US to the 19th Century, in terms of taxation, regulation, religion, sexual mores, and more.
Conservatives are fundimentally anti-change. This is good enough. Don't go any further, don't go back.
Moderates are to conservatives as liberals are to progressives.
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lord of the mark
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FUKCOV - Former United Kingdom Colony of Virginia
Dec 2000
time: 00:31
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quote:
Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Yes, but this implies you have a fundimental misunderstanding of what reactionary means. A reactionary is someone who wanted to go socially, politically, economically, religiously backwards in time. What we have today has gone to far, we need to go back to a simpler, more moral, etc. time.
So, many of the people who have seized control of the Republican Party are reactionaries. They want to return the US to the 19th Century, in terms of taxation, regulation, religion, sexual mores, and more.
Conservatives are fundimentally anti-change. This is good enough. Don't go any further, don't go back.
Moderates are to conservatives as liberals are to progressives. |
INMH Liberal differs from social democrat, at least in the US largely in that liberals are more focused on legal rights, while soc dems are focused on economic justice, and liberals tend to take be of upper middle class origin and to dislike class based politics,(other than occasionally as weapon against conservatives) while soc dems of whatever origin tend to more frankly advocate working class interests. Progressive tends either to be an anachronism (as if Teddy Roosevelt were still President) or a euphemism (generally for fellow travelers) however I would accept the following statement "Progressives are to socialists, as liberals are to social democrats"
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SlowwHand
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of The Cooler
Sep 1999
time: 23:31
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One of the whole points of this is to demonstate that Radicals of either persuasion spend too much time and energy shouting to each other along this perception of linear politics, when all they need to do is turn around and discuss.
Last edited by SlowwHand on 30-10-2003 at 02:29
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30-10-2003 01:07
Libertarians aren't moderates. Moderates are the people willing to compromise. Libertarians, like Communists, aren't the compromising sort. They have other things in common with the commies too, actually.
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