30-10-2003 22:27									#1
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Build the city where it is unless anyone has any objections?

worker by capital should road the irrigated tile...

	30-10-2003 23:40									#2
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Agreed. Lets call it Gobbligobbleegupp

About the jags, should steve be sent north to have a look around and perhaps join a tabemono-feast?

The next jag available(the second built from now?) should be sent s/sw to explore

Edit: Gobbligobbleegoop. It's so damn hard to spell rigth.

	31-10-2003 00:03									#3
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hmmmn yeah a good look at Tabe lands would be nice.

we could do with 2 JW's to scout to the west one north one south

edit- on second thought perhaps the JW currently adjacent to the barb warrior in the pic could go north into Tabe lands with Steve going west

	31-10-2003 03:12									#4
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Send him in a nice arc then first north, then northwest and west.

What about the barb, kill'im? If he's not on hills that is.

	01-11-2003 15:54									#5
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Back. I've been having connection problems over the past few days.

Looks like things are going fairly well

	01-11-2003 16:13									#6
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Played the turn.
Founded GobbeliGobbeleeGoop
Built road close to capitol

jag steve, e,n
dangerusqe..n, attacked by barb by end of turn, loose one HP
Jaguars are fun, e,e find tabemono city I will add a screenshot

	01-11-2003 16:30									#7
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As I said, we have found tabemono, at least one city, perla. It's blocking an isthmus and I guess that the rest of fatland is on the other side Will whoever is in charge of diplomacy offer tabemono our most sincere apologies for trespassing?



Edit: this is not from the actual save, I did something 'funny' so I had to replay it to get the screenshot. Don't worry, apart from an eventual misspelling of city#3 it is 100% identical to the original.

Last edited by bongo on 01-11-2003 at 16:40

	01-11-2003 17:15									#8
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thats not Tabemono thats latin lover


I played the save too and sent it probably while you were doing this.

Although I did a few things differently like offering LL mysticism and masonry

I'm going to send a message to LL and also try to get someone from SS to play the save I sent so as to get a deal with LL sooner .

	01-11-2003 18:13									#9
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LL? seriously?

I guess I have to play it again just to see for myself. Anyway, I was in a hurry when I played the turn so it may have escaped my attention

	03-11-2003 17:55									#10
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Judging by the sea tiles patterns, I'd say that there's more that LL behind that isthmus - althougth that's a bit of a guess. From previous screenshots (such as the city placement one) we can infer coastal tiles 6666 and 66662 from our capital. We can also see that there are fairly wide, shallow bays either side of the LL isthmus. This rather implies that LL have a coastline that runs south more or less matching our coastline, and also has some ground N and possibly NW of the city we can see. While it is possible that that land is thin enough to only support one civ, I've not seen the CivIII map generator produce may long, snaky subcontinents like that (a la Civ2). I'd guess that it is reasonably likely that there is a fair sized chunk of land there. To what extent was the map tweaked during generation by Panzer32? IIRC he was allowed to change the map to give some kind of fair setup - does anyone know what limits were put on the kind of changes he could make? (Or is Panzer32 able to enlighten us, since he can read this?)

The other option is that there is some kind of island east of our territory, south of LL, unconnected to us (and LL have a nice, defensible isthmus all of their own with unknown amount of land behind it). I think galley scouting of our eastern ocean should be made a moderately high priority (in terms of research/trade objectives) to find out how much of a risk our coastline is under.

EDIT: plus, of course, if there are more civs over there, we don't want LL to hold the monopoly on contact and trade between the two halves.