23-04-2005 15:17									#361
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Check your session log, and see if it identifies the Civ3 paths correctly. (The tool should load them from the registry)

It may be that CIVIII Complete use different registry keys than installing the differents parts separeate.

	23-04-2005 22:35									#362
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I've been trying to use the SaveGame Modifier, but it seems to wind up corrupting any file that I save using the modifier. Even if I make no changes to the .sav file, but just save it using C3MT, I get problems. I've tried it on a variety of .sav files, but always get the same problem. When I try to load the game in Civ3, I get the error message: "Data IO operation system error: BIC"

Also, if I try to load the files that I save using the modifier in C3MT itself, I get "Error while listing races: object variable or With variable not set" and then "Error while listing civs: object variable or With variable not set"

I'm using Civ 3 with the 1.29f_US patch.

Any help? Thanks!

	25-04-2005 07:34									#363
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It does find the right folders. Maybe you can see something in the file that I cant.

I have tried reinstalling both the Multi-tool and CIV3 Complete.

Also, I have yet to find a trainer that works. So there must be something funky with this version. If anyone knows of a trainer that works with CIV III Complete, please let me know.

Attachment: 3cmt log.txt
This has been downloaded 3 time(s).

	25-04-2005 11:38									#364
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The problem is "STARTUP: Vanilla Civ3 not installed!"

If you can tell me where the CIV3 complete registry key Install_Path is stored I can have it fixed in the next version.
Vanilla Cv3 is in
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Infogrames Interactive\Civilization III
and PTW and C3C is in
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Infogrames\*
Could you see if there is any info about complete somewhere around there?

	30-04-2005 02:37									#365
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Key Name: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Atari\Civil
ization III - Complete Edition
Value 1
Name: INSTALL_PATH
Type: REG_SZ
Data: C:\Program Files\Atari\Civilization III Complete\

===============
Key Name: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Infogrames\
Civ3PTW

Value 3
Name: Install_Path
Type: REG_SZ
Data: C:\Program Files\Atari\Civilization III Complete\Civ3PTW

===============
Key Name: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Infogrames\
Conquests

Value 2
Name: Install_Path
Type: REG_SZ
Data: C:\Program Files\Atari\Civilization III Complete\Conquests


I hope this helps

EDIT: I have attached all of the reg keys I could find with Install_Path in it.

Attachment: atari.txt
This has been downloaded 3 time(s).

	01-05-2005 01:37									#366
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bha this tool doesnt work at all wrong
when creating a unit and loading the .SAV i get an IO adress error
when like adding an improvement such as a grenier i get a runtime 438 error

i have civ3 ptw and all patches, so i say wtf is going
let me tell ya this is poor job, everything i do i get an error message

	01-05-2005 04:26									#367
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In that case, why don't you create your own editor. I don't have time to maintain this anyways. Get v1.10.x it should work with PTW, but were totally unmaintainable. The 1.11.x branch has lots of new code that still isn't trimmed in yet. Most of the code changes in that brance is to open up for continuued development and hopefully make it possible to create a version working with at least the three last patches of each version. However the fact that I don't have time for more than very small tests myself results in some bugs taking long time to fix. Generally I don't have time to try to reproduce bugs any more The times when session logs give me a hint of what goes wrong I may make a change other times I just try to figure what area of the code that are most likely to cause the bug and mplement more error handling. v1.11.5 will have mush more refined error messages in several parts of the utility as a result of a codupgrade related to another tool I'm working with.

Also note that the currently not very well working SGE only is a part of this multi tool. The parts of the tool aimed at scenario design is more stable, and also easier to maintain.

v1.11.5 is on it's way out. I've built it and am waiting for Settler III to allow me to upload it. I wouldn't think it will fix incompability wit certain combinations of Languages OSes and patch versions but it will probably give more useful errormessage that can be used to track some of those bugs down

	01-05-2005 04:54									#368
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Erekose, if you don’t have anything useful to say, please keep it to yourself.
"Me Fail English? That's Unpossible!"

Gramphos, I really appreciate all the hard work you’ve put into this tool and the effort you’ve put into helping me get the Multi-tool working with my version.

	01-05-2005 22:36									#369
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erekose that is surely not the way to get assistance. You could have try a little restraint.

I mean it did not cost you anything to acquire the tool, so why complain?

	03-05-2005 23:19									#370
	v1.11.5 - now at Apolyton Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

This version has been out for a few days posted at CFC during the early days of Settler III. Now it's also uploaded on Polly and the version-check info should be updated as well.

1.11.5
- Fixed adding multiple units with the UCW
- Fixed Import/Export functionality for units in the CT
- Errorlogging improved in varius areas of the code.
- The tool should now identify Civilization III Complete installations
- Added description to Image<->Map converter entry on main menu


v1.11.5 comes either as a full installer or as a small patch against v1.x. patch | install

	15-05-2005 04:13									#371
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I can't seem to use the Unit Settings (Global) feature of the saved game editor at all. The drop down box and the stats just wont change. And I did try checking Enabled Unfinished Features option from the main MultiTool Settings.

Haplo

	20-05-2005 04:58									#372
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I'm still getting "File not found: Art\Units\palettes\ntp00.pcx" error. All the way to ntp31.pcx

Then it crashes.

STARTUP: 2005-05-19 18:50:53
STARTUP: C:\Program Files\Atari\Civilization III Complete\3Cmt\::1.11.5
STARTUP: arguments:
STARTUP: logfile C:\Program Files\Atari\Civilization III Complete\3Cmt\s44.log
STARTUP: MainThread: 2852
STARTUP: Running on Windows XP Service Pack 1
STARTUP: Loading splashscreen...
STARTUP: Loading registrysettings...
STARTUP: Read settings...
SETTINGS: Loading language settings.
STARTUP: Loading language file.
LANGUAGE: Loading c3mt.txt
LANGUAGE: Fullpath: C:\Program Files\Atari\Civilization III Complete\3Cmt\c3mt.txt
SETTINGS: Loading old C3CT settings.
SETTINGS: Deleting old C3CT settings.
SETTINGS: Loading C3MT settings.
SETTINGS: Loading old C3CT user specific settings.
SETTINGS: Loading C3MT user specific settings.
STARTUP: Get paths...
STARTUP: System directory: C:\WINDOWS\System32
STARTUP: Testing DLL usability...
STARTUP: Usability test pass 1 - successful
STARTUP: Usability test pass 2 - successful
Vanilla Civ3 not installed!
PTWpath: C:\Program Files\Atari\Civilization III Complete\Civ3PTW\
C3Cpath: C:\Program Files\Atari\Civilization III Complete\Conquests\
STARTUP: Usability test pass 3 - successful
STARTUP: Checking CDD-association
STARTUP: Checking CDD-association
STARTUP: Finding Civ3 version...
STARTUP: FAIL: (0)
STARTUP: Load taking long time... Trying to speed up.
SGE: Loading...
SGE: Applying overrides...
SGE: Resetting timescale...
SGE: Prepering tabs...
SGE: Setting initial loading directory...
SGE: Disabling controls...
SGE: Resetting filters...
SGE: Loading palettes...

Attachment: s44.txt
This has been downloaded 3 time(s).

	20-05-2005 17:54									#373
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Might have the wrong file uploaded.

I just dl'ed 1.11.5 (full) and here is the c3mt.log;

quote: Upgrade to version 1.11.4 ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ Invalid procedure call or argument(5) at Startup Error: Invalid property value(380)3/13/2005 9:23:19 AM in lslLEAD_Click Invalid procedure call or argument(5) at Startup Error: Invalid property value(380)3/19/2005 9:27:57 PM in lslLEAD_Click Bad file name or number(52) at Startup

Then the same errors as already posted.

	20-05-2005 18:04									#374
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After spitting the errors, it seemed to loadand save a Conquests save game fine.

All the spash screens say 1.11.5

I knew after that screwy setup, that Complete was a waste.....lmfao

damn them.

	20-05-2005 22:31									#375
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Do you get a session log?

	28-05-2005 01:18									#376
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I have been trying to get the save game editor to work and all it will do is crash. I get these error messages when I load it

Error: Object variable or With block variable not set (91) in C3MT::frmSaveEdit.frm Line 3493
SGE: Making Mapsummary
Error: Object variable or With block variable not set (91) in C3MT::frmSaveEdit.frm Line 3501
Error: Object variable or With block variable not set (91) in C3MT::frmSaveEdit.frm Line 3508

After which it seems to work except if I try to use the filter it crashes or if I try to save it crashes. I just tried redownloading it from here but it still did the same thing. What's going wrong and how can I fix it?

	29-05-2005 00:06									#377
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Seems as if your save fails to load. Could you post it?

	29-05-2005 00:37									#378
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Ok, but I'm not exactly sure what you want me to post ... do you mean attach the saved game to a message? If so, I can do that no problem, if not then I guess this old brain needs to have what you want explained in simple words [heh]

	29-05-2005 00:39									#379
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if it's small ennough to attach then do so. Otherwise use the upload feature.

	29-05-2005 06:35									#380
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Ok, I've uploaded the save file ... but I'm afraid I'm very new to this board and so I don't know the ins and outs of it yet and I'm not sure how to do a link to the file so you can get it.

	29-05-2005 06:53									#381
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Never mind - I found the answer to my question [I think] now if I have this right, then this should link the file:

http://apolyton.net/upload/view.php...anese1772AD.SAV

	02-06-2005 14:10									#382
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The last time I played Civ3PTW?... a year or so.

I tried the lastest version, 1.11.5 (full install version) and I use PTW (1.27f).

Unfortunatly, when I try to load a PTW save file, it says [ Not a Civ 3] and it crashes. Also, the default laod save games directory is located in Civ3 and not PTW.

PTW is working fine though. It seems Civ3MultiTool doesn't see it installed. I can't see why!

Here is the log file:

STARTUP: 2005-06-02 04:46:10
STARTUP: C:\Program Files\C3MT\::1.11.5
STARTUP: arguments:
STARTUP: logfile C:\Program Files\C3MT\s2.log
STARTUP: MainThread: 2484
STARTUP: Running on Windows XP
STARTUP: Loading splashscreen...
STARTUP: Checking for new version...
STARTUP: Loading registrysettings...
STARTUP: Read settings...
SETTINGS: Loading language settings.
STARTUP: Loading language file.
LANGUAGE: Loading c3mt.txt
LANGUAGE: Fullpath: C:\Program Files\C3MT\c3mt.txt
SETTINGS: Loading old C3CT settings.
SETTINGS: Deleting old C3CT settings.
SETTINGS: Loading C3MT settings.
SETTINGS: Loading old C3CT user specific settings.
SETTINGS: Loading C3MT user specific settings.
STARTUP: Get paths...
STARTUP: System directory: C:\WINDOWS\System32
STARTUP: Testing DLL usability...
STARTUP: Usability test pass 1 - successful
STARTUP: Usability test pass 2 - successful
Civ3path: C:\Jeux\Civs\Civ3\
PTW not installed.
Conquest not installed.
STARTUP: Usability test pass 3 - successful
STARTUP: Checking CDD-association
STARTUP: Checking CDD-association
STARTUP: Checking for undeleted logfiles (crashed seesions)...
STARTUP: Connected to host... Sending request
STARTUP: Newest version: 1.11.5
STARTUP: Download location: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...threadid=100445
STARTUP: Location name: Apolyton CS Forums
STARTUP: Extra versioninfo: New in v1.11.5: Bugfix release with improved error tracking.\n\nNew in version 1.11:\nRewritten save- and scenario-handling system\nImage2Map - Convert PCX images to Civ3 maps\nImproved C3C support
STARTUP: Finding Civ3 version...
STARTUP: Civ3 version: 1,29
STARTUP: Handing command line options
SGE: Loading...
SGE: Applying overrides...
SGE: Resetting timescale...
SGE: Prepering tabs...
SGE: Setting initial loading directory...
SGE: Disabling controls...
SGE: Resetting filters...
SGE: Loading palettes...
SAVELOAD: loading C:\Jeux\Civs\Civ3\CIV3PTW\Saves\Azulade\1.sav
SAVELOAD: opening/decompressing and opening save
Opening C:\Jeux\Civs\Civ3\CIV3PTW\Saves\Azulade\1.sav
SAVELOAD: Loading Default Rules
Error: Subscript out of range (9) in C3MT::StreamBuffer.cls Line 710
SAVELOAD: A parse error occured
BICGET: Loading Version (VER#)
BICGET: Version is 11,19
BICGET: Found BIC Section: BLDG

I tried to install and uninstall C3mt several times.

	06-06-2005 10:44									#383
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Can someone post me the registry content of both PTW and C3MT? So I can compare them and see if there is anything wrong with mine.

	06-06-2005 11:03									#384
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C3MT registry content isn't that important. Just settings.

PTW should have an install_path somehere pointing to the civ3ptw directory

	20-06-2005 23:49									#385
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1.11.6
- Added code to eliminate (hopefully) runtime errors due to fail in save load.
- Improved error logging in more areas of the code (still not all)
- Corrected a subscriptout of range error whan using filter with non-embeded rules.
- Removed section searching from GAME datasection in saveload. (This should eliminate some rare cases of files not loading properly due to garbage strings lookingas section tags)
- Corrected adivision by zero error that could occur if a save was loaded on turn 1.
- Corrected some backward compabilities with old BI*-versions. (Some values got initiated to invalid values, which could cause the tool to crash with division by zero error)
- Corrected bug in serialization of zerolength areas that sometimes would cause DataIO save corruptions.
- Corrected bug in backwardbompability saving of save headers.
- Updated Map import to work with the new save handling code.


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	07-07-2005 06:36									#386
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I have a saved game that hangs on the next turn, and I cannot figure out why. When I use the SGE, when I go to the cities tab, and choose a particular city, I get a "Runtime Error '13'" Type mismatch. Its a city that recently was captured by another civ.... can you tell me what this runtime error represents? I'd like to figure out how to salvage this savegame.

Thanks.

	07-07-2005 11:43									#387
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that error most likely mean that some variable fails to be loaded. Either due to unknown information, or an error in the save.

	10-07-2005 18:07									#388
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Hi!
Just bought Civ3 (yep a slowpoke) and thought I try your tool also but unfortunately I immediately run into problems. I am running verson 1.11.6 under windows XP.

Trying to export a map I get:
Error: Object variable or With block variable not set (91) in C3MT::SAVE_Map_Tile.cls Line 220

This is a fatal error as in locking the program

Trying to save a change (or even an unchanged file) gives
Path/File access error 75 streambuffer.cls line 833
and trying to start a saved file (after ignoring) gives me Data IO operation error PALV.

	10-07-2005 23:25									#389
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I don't know what the tool supports, but do get to the latest patch:

1.29 for Civ3
1.27 for PTW
1.22 for C3C

	11-07-2005 12:42									#390
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Like vmxa said the chances that later patches work are higher than the chances that earlier does. The backward compability code really neeeds some attecntion.