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Shi Huangdi is offline Shi Huangdi
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Saturday, November 01, 2003
By Eric Burns


We have come a long way.





Early in the 17th century in Jamestown, the first permanent British colony in the New World, cursing was considered a crime. For a first offense, a person was to suffer “severe punishment.” For a second offense, he was to have “a bodkin [a small, pointed instrument used to make holes in cloth or leather] thrust through his tongue.”

There would be no fourth offense; for the third, a curser would be put to death.

Now, early in the 21st century, the Federal Communications Commission (search) has decided that the most common, if also most crude, four-letter synonym for the sex act may be uttered on television---if, that is, it is used “properly.”

How do you say “f***” properly, you ask?

First, the background. On Jan. 19 of this year, on the nationally televised Golden Globes Awards (search) program, the singer Bono, (search) accepting an award, said either “this is really, really f***ing brilliant,” or “this is f***ing great.” As a result, 234 complaints were filed against the TV stations that carried the show, one of them from a watchdog group called the Parents’ Television Council (search).
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,101860,00.html

As the FCC itself stated in something called a Memorandum Opinion and Order, “The complainants contend that such material is either obscene and/or indecent, and they request that the Commission levy sanctions against the licensees for the broadcast of the subject material.”

The FCC decided not to levy sanctions. In fact, the FCC decided to allow the word in question to be uttered on television without sanctions in the future. Here is the explanation, and I offer it at some length. The FCC used the actual word; it was my decision to add the asterisks:

“The word ‘f***ing may be crude and offensive, but, in the context presented here, did not describe sexual or excretory activities or functions. Rather, the performer used the word f***ing as an adjective or expletive to emphasize an exclamation. Indeed, in similar circumstances, we have found that offensive language used as an insult rather than as a description of sexual or excretory activity or organs is not within the scope of the Commission’s prohibition of indecent program content.”



So it was that the FCC decided to “reject the claims that this program content is indecent.”

In other words, it’s okay to say f*** on television if you’re not talking about f***ing.

It has been four centuries since the American colonists stuck a sharp object through the tongues of the foul-mouthed among them. Perhaps, in another four centuries, the word f*** will be so frequently uttered as to be inoffensive, virtually meaningless, and the FCC’s decision will seem a nadir of triviality. After all, when I was a child the word “piss” could not be spoken in polite company; these days, people who are polite company often confess, both on the air and in private, to being “pissed off.”

But in the short run, the FCC’s decision seems, at the very least, another victory for the dull-witted, scatalogically-minded men and women who run the entertainment industry in this country. For many years now, they have been confusing coarseness with creativity, their idea of a bold new program being one in which the characters swear more than characters in previous shows.

It is not original ideas they prize, not original dramatic situations or more profound examinations of the human comedy, not more literate and challenging scripts. It is, rather, old ideas, familiar situations, continued superficiality and vapid scripts---with a few more f***s thrown in for spice.

The FCC might have thought that it was simply allowing a curse word to be used in one particular setting. But the effect of the ruling will be to encourage all manner of curse words to be used in a greater variety of on-air settings than ever before.

Perhaps the commissioners should be sentenced to the bodkin.

Eric Burns is the host of Fox News Watch, which airs Saturdays at 6:30 p.m. ET/3:30 p.m. PT and Sundays at 1:30 a.m. ET/10:30 p.m. PT, 6:30 a.m. ET/3:30 a.m. PT, and 11 p.m. ET/8 p.m. PT. He is the author of several books, including The Spirits of America: A Social History of Alcohol (Temple University)


This is ****ing Great! Now we can say "**** you!" or "This ****ign sucks!" all we want on TV. Now the only thing left is for Apolyton to allow it! Comeon Mods, don't be ****heads, let us say **** on apolyton!

yavoon is offline yavoon
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Oct 2001
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seriously, dont ****ing limit my ****ing diction w/ ur ****ing "extremeration"(read:moderation).

Atahualpa is offline Atahualpa
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**** this is a ****ing awesome day
**** it, this ****s the whole world as we **** about it
**** **** ****

Az is offline Az
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We don't have any language limitations on TV, AFAIK. The TV channels know when they can use it.

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****trumpet
****tard
cluster****

GhengisFarb is offline GhengisFarb
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Then again this isn't ****ing television.

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well, at least we can say 'Dickhead!'

alva is offline alva
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Isn't the F-word originally an acronym? Not sure where I got it from, I always though I had read it somewhere.
IIRC it used to be a term describing eugh extra marital exercises.
Fornication
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**** that Ghengis!

MichaeltheGreat is offline MichaeltheGreat
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Oct 1999
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This is ****ing Great! Now we can say "**** you!" or "This ****ign sucks!" all we want on TV. Now the only thing left is for Apolyton to allow it! Comeon Mods, don't be ****heads, let us say **** on apolyton!


Keep ****ing dreaming, ****wit. There isn't a ****ing chance in hell. So **** off.

MichaeltheGreat is offline MichaeltheGreat
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Isn't the F-word originally an acronym? Not sure where I got it from, I always though I had read it somewhere.
IIRC it used to be a term describing eugh extra marital exercises.
Fornication
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Naaah, from what I've read, it's derived from an old Saxon word.

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Kuciwalker is offline Kuciwalker
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Elok is offline Elok
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Isn't the F-word originally an acronym? Not sure where I got it from, I always though I had read it somewhere.
IIRC it used to be a term describing eugh extra marital exercises.
Fornication
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Under the Consent of the King. The story goes that it was a sign put up on whorehouses that had paid off the government, so that constables would conveniently look the other way. Unfortunately, it's a myth. The word's just a derivation of an early German term meaning the same thing. Fokken or some such.

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[Middle English, attested in pseudo-Latin fuccant, (they) ****, deciphered from gxddbov.]

Word History: The obscenity **** is a very old word and has been considered shocking from the first, though it is seen in print much more often now than in the past. Its first known occurrence, in code because of its unacceptability, is in a poem composed in a mixture of Latin and English sometime before 1500. The poem, which satirizes the Carmelite friars of Cambridge, England, takes its title, “Flen flyys,” from the first words of its opening line, “Flen, flyys, and freris,” that is, “fleas, flies, and friars.” The line that contains **** reads “Non sunt in coeli, quia gxddbov xxkxzt pg ifmk.” The Latin words “Non sunt in coeli, quia,” mean “they [the friars] are not in heaven, since.” The code “gxddbov xxkxzt pg ifmk” is easily broken by simply substituting the preceding letter in the alphabet, keeping in mind differences in the alphabet and in spelling between then and now: i was then used for both i and j; v was used for both u and v; and vv was used for w. This yields “fvccant [a fake Latin form] vvivys of heli.” The whole thus reads in translation: “They are not in heaven because they **** wives of Ely [a town near Cambridge].”

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Originally posted by alva
Isn't the F-word originally an acronym? Not sure where I got it from, I always though I had read it somewhere.
IIRC it used to be a term describing eugh extra marital exercises.
Fornication
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SNAFU?

Situation Normal All ****ed Up.

Well over here we're getting 'f*ck's on the front pages of our newspapers - seen at least one on the front page of the Grauniad the other day...

Flubber is offline Flubber
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While I don't take personal offense, I just don't see the need. Must television always be as crude as possible ??


Hooray!! another victory for free spech over good taste and manners

Hueij is offline Hueij
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Hah! More than 30 years late... You sure are a backward people...

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