03-11-2003 04:11									#31
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Commie T, well I at least learned something from the commie/liberals. The rhetoric they use against the right and particularly Bush is unreserved in its hyperbole.

	03-11-2003 04:14									#32
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quote: The rhetoric they use against the right and particularly Bush is unreserved in its hyperbole.

How ironic...You slam others for their percieved rhetorical statements yet....

	03-11-2003 04:30									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar How ironic...You slam others for their percieved rhetorical statements yet....

No, you slammed me. I did not slam you. I simply point out that the left uses hyperbole as a norm is its debates. In another thread, you just called someone a NAZI. The term "racist" is used indiscriminately by the left.

Deny it all you want.

	03-11-2003 04:43									#34
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Oh my GOD A *spelling* Nazi, Ned. He corrected a spelling mistake of mine, and I jokingly implied he was a spelling Nazi
But of course you were simply looking for something to try to "stick it to Tassadar", so when you saw the word "Nazi" you must have gone crazy

	03-11-2003 04:45									#35
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quote: The war on terror has gone well. There have been no further attacks on the US.

indeed. Instead, the attacks are carried out on Americans abroad. (Bush said the War on Terror is a worldwide war, not just a war to protect America's territory)

quote: Iraq is a problem, but less of a problem than it was.

For whom? Not for you, that's for sure. Cause I don't recall many Americans dieing in Iraq in the years between Gulf War 1 and 2.

quote: The people of the world who love liberty appreciate Bush.

If you believe that, you really need to get your head out of the sand.

Or are you saying half of your countrymen don't love "liberty"? And >50% of all Europeans, Canadians, etc? The man is dispised all over the world! And you're trying to make him into a marter of "liberty". Quit the rhetoric, and see what a mess your president has created!

	03-11-2003 05:05									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Ned In another thread, you just called someone a NAZI. The term "racisit" is used indiscriminately by the left. Deny it all you want.

And I shore is madder than a shaved porcupine in winter fer that!!

quote: No, you slammed me. I did not slam you. I simply point out that the left uses hyperbole as a norm is its debates.

And the Right can't seem to think for itself, it can only quote bad material from it public mouthpieces.

	03-11-2003 05:32									#37
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quote: Commie T, well I at least learned something from the commie/liberals. The rhetoric they use against the right and particularly Bush is unreserved in its hyperbole.

quote: No, you slammed me. I did not slam you.

oh, how i wish this was true. if the right doesn't slam the left as a matter of regular rhetoric, how the hell is ann coulter so popular? and for that matter, savage? or hannity? or limbaugh?

this allegation that all the hyperbolic rhetoric is on the liberal side is pure bullshit.

	03-11-2003 07:42									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Space05us could you imagine the laws he would pass.

If I was also imagining that he was a legislature, I suppose so.

	03-11-2003 07:50									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Theben The 'newbie' is PLATO.

Actually he is my 12 year old son. Thanks for going easy on him. I'll talk to him.

	03-11-2003 08:00									#40
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plato's son posts here?

we've had couples post here, like bg and che or ltec and mtg... or brothers, like ming and rah...

but never a father/son thing so far as i know.

cheers!

	03-11-2003 08:01									#41
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Actually Frances and his son post here also.

	03-11-2003 08:02									#42
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only 12 and you already allow him to see the hell that is the Off Topic forum, he is a brave soul...

	03-11-2003 08:09									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Space05us only 12 and you already allow him to see the hell that is the Off Topic forum, he is a brave soul...

Generally he is banned from lurking or posting the OT. He is a huge Axis & Allies fan and I turned him loose last night to post in that thread. Apparently he went a little overboard. I'll fix it.

	03-11-2003 08:12									#44
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Im not saying he isnt welcome here, there's nothing that he posted that needs fixing. I was just poking fun

	03-11-2003 08:14									#45
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You know, I have seen this "hatred" of Republican presidents abroad my entire life. Even Eisenhower was hated as soon as he declared for the presidency as a Republican.

One can draw certain conclusions about this. It appears that the foreign media is very leftist, as well as much of the foreign population. The people who organize the protests whenever a Republican president travels abroad are the far left radicals such as the communists and greens.

Since I have seen this with no exceptions, I know the current antipathy against Bush is normal. He is especially reviled by the left because he has been unusually willing to use force to advance America's interests. Of course, America is the arch-enemy to the radical left and anything that advances its power is evil - to them.

The bottom line, noting Bush's unpopularity with the left abroad is a true sign that he must be doing something right.

	03-11-2003 08:43									#46
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quote: Originally posted by Ned The bottom line, noting Bush's unpopularity with the left abroad is a true sign that he must be doing something right.

The bottom line, noting the Taliban's unpopularity with the left abroad is a true sign that they must have been doing something right.

	03-11-2003 08:50									#47
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St. Leo, name one Republican president who has ever been popular with the left?

	03-11-2003 08:53									#48
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quote: Originally posted by Space05us Im not saying he isnt welcome here, there's nothing that he posted that needs fixing. I was just poking fun

Well he is a sheep among wolves. He needs to understand not to start something that he would be hard pressed to finish.

Of course he was right about Bush:

quote: Bush is a great president

Smart Kid!!

	03-11-2003 09:12									#49
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quote: Please exlain the causation to me. Seems more like a convenient coincidence.

I want more convenient coincidences.

	03-11-2003 11:10									#50
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quote: St. Leo, name one Republican president who has ever been popular with the left?

Well some Dems liked Reagan at the time... remember the "Reagan Democrats"?

	03-11-2003 19:35									#51
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quote: Since I have seen this with no exceptions

Lots of non-leftists are against Bush too. Chirac, Putin. Also, 3 out of 4 Germans and Frenchmen view Bush negatively. 3 out of 4! While in France, the majority votes for right wing parties, and in Germany around half! Plenty of right wingers who dislike Bush. Similar findings in Spain and Italy, where right wingers were voted into office, but 60% still had an unfavorable view of Bush.

So far from just "commies/greens" opposing Bush, lots of right wingers dislike him too. And people don't dislike Bush because he's right wing, they dislike him (and most other republicans, and quite a few democrats) for their (in our opinion) ignorant and short sighted views on world affairs, for their overt nationalist and religious displays, etc. And this isn't limited to US presidents, guys like Berlusconi are universally dispised as well.

	03-11-2003 23:25									#52
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quote: You know, I have seen this "hatred" of Republican presidents abroad my entire life. Even Eisenhower was hated as soon as he declared for the presidency as a Republican.

i've seen hatred of the left abroad and here in america since as far back as i can remember by those on the american right.

you point?

	03-11-2003 23:34									#53
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the "left" seems to like Lincoln... although that Republican party was not the ultra-right corporate party that exists today.

	03-11-2003 23:46									#54
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quote: Originally posted by Ned St. Leo, name one Republican president who has ever been popular with the left?

name one democratic president that has ever been popular with the right...

Ned you lack the ability to have a relative perspective on ANYTHING! its always you vs everyone else. conservatives vs everyone else. etc etc.

	04-11-2003 01:46									#55
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I'd rather have Aarnold as president. Then, when he says something wrong noone will understand him enough to backlash. Seriously though, Bush is not doing a very good job. You can't compare what he does right to what he does wrong to get the big picture, because any retard can get most of the popular stuff right if they just listen to what other people say.. Its the unpopular decisions that Bush is screwing up, and screwing up in a big way.

	04-11-2003 02:37									#56
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I was listening to a radio documentary on NPR on democracy, and they said the democrats are reluctant to use populist remarks while republicans use populism a lot (labeling thingss patriotic and american and whatnot other BS). So basically, the repugs tap in on peoples ignorance (taxes and economics) and emotion (9/11, religion, etc.), while the Dems use logical arguments (unemployment, etc.).

	04-11-2003 03:39									#57
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quote: Originally posted by Sava the "left" seems to like Lincoln... although that Republican party was not the ultra-right corporate party that exists today.

Of course he was. The Republican party began to finance RR construction as soon as they got into power. And, by modern standards, Lincoln was a right wing religious lunatic, constantly referring to God and calling slavery evil.

And more than that, Lincoln was a warmonger in every sense George Bush was. He was willing to use force to suppress the rebellion rather that to appease the South.

Lincoln was enormously unpopular among Democrats at the time.

	04-11-2003 03:41									#58
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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed quote: You know, I have seen this "hatred" of Republican presidents abroad my entire life. Even Eisenhower was hated as soon as he declared for the presidency as a Republican. i've seen hatred of the left abroad and here in america since as far back as i can remember by those on the american right. you point?

The hatred of socialist and communists is well deserved because they hate freedom.

	04-11-2003 03:44									#59
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quote: Originally posted by Space05us only 12 and you already allow him to see the hell that is the Off Topic forum, he is a brave soul...

I explicitly forbade my 10 year old twin brothers from even THINKING about registering here

EDIT: mostly because they are... how should I say it... Kidicious

	04-11-2003 03:44									#60
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quote: Originally posted by Ned The hatred of socialist and communists is well deserved because they hate freedom.

We do?