06-11-2003 11:06									#241
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quote: Originally posted by Asher BOOOO! Urban already closed a perfectly legit thread to save his ass. http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...threadid=100935 A few days on the job and he's already using his powers to censor threads which he doesn't like, but don't break the rules.

Hmm...Not quite what I would've done, but you did shut down the Mac forum

	06-11-2003 11:52									#242
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quote: Originally posted by Asher BOOOO! Urban already closed a perfectly legit thread to save his ass. http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...threadid=100935

This is definitely a good case against UR. That post of his does have a point, but it is not a reason to close a thread at all. I mean, where in the rules FAQ does it say that making polls whose results might be biased because the users of Apolyton are not a representative sample of... well, anything but Apolyton users?

Now, posting another thread about the same issue when the old one has been closed, that's just plain stupidity. If you want to contest one recent decision you don't go breaking old, generally accepted rules. If you were to just nicely point out to the admins that this Urban Ranger fellow closed a thread that should not have been closed (and you would have gained the sympathies of many people that way), you would have gained a lot more influence...

	06-11-2003 12:04									#243
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Problem with Dave's original approach is that he included a literal reference to UR in the thread; hence making it more than fair game for the lock n' key. UR's lack of foresight to close the thread for his own face saving satisfaction through this outside, barely just, (yet available) reason - was quite pathetically evident in the resultant action.

That's know your task botching idiot 101 for tonight, folks!

	06-11-2003 12:04									#244
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Yes - already abusing his position. Tut, tut.

I would get upset but

a. that's normal mod behaviour on the OT (congrats UR for fitting in so well)

b. Some mods, i.e. Ming and MTG, seem to get off when people get upset about their decisions (Asher to note)

	06-11-2003 12:11									#245
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Exactly. Yet young moron didn't even know how to handle it to a less than shakey and more assertive outcome. The number one thing needed here while abusively locking threads; is the respect of those you abuse (through some form of superiority) - followed closely by "knowing what's going on yourself and not looking like a pathetic, self serving retard directly after the action".

0/2 on those counts, Urban!

	06-11-2003 12:14									#246
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Modding can be a form of trolling, almost a licence to troll, try and hurt people you don't like etc. (the Ming/Mobius thing would be an example).

Mark and Dan seem either not to care, not to notice or enjoy it voyeuristically themselves.

	06-11-2003 12:18									#247
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You're correct - but handing such a priviledge to the aforementioned junior makes about as much sense as MI6 granting Carrot Top a license to kill.

Well, that's a bit gracious on my part. Let's instead say: Giving the squeegee kid on 17th ave who yells at hallucinations of "George W. Hitler" a suitcase nuke.

	06-11-2003 12:47									#248
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quote: Problem with Dave's original approach is that he included a literal reference to UR in the thread; hence making it more than fair game for the lock n' key.

Exactly. Like I said, you need to teach him some subtlety.

	06-11-2003 13:04									#249
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he also needs to find out when UR sleeps, goes to work, stuff like that, windows of opportunity

	06-11-2003 13:08									#250
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no I don't think so thanks

	06-11-2003 13:25									#251
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quote: Originally posted by Asher It's pretty lame how you try to fit in by using an old nickname I had well before you came here. Don't try as hard, son.

Don't fear for me Glonk , I'm not trying to fit in here . Glonk just seems to suit you (and irritate you ) more than Asher . I picked it up from our new mod , UR . There is such a thing as humility and learning from someone older , you know . I hadn't thought you'd have heard of it . It seems I was right . Neither , it seems , have you heard of something called tack and strategy .

If you really wanted to prove UR wrong that badly , you should have left the line concerning him out of the thread in the OT . And then , later , after the vote was running conclusively in your favour , you should have announced your real intentions . Patience is virtue , and also a necessity in this type of warfare .

	06-11-2003 13:26									#252
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quote: Originally posted by DaShi The excuse that this is a gaming forum doesn't fly when you read then next 30 posts about politics, history, books, and (surprisingly enough) computers. In fact, if anyone talks about games they are often redirected to other forums on this site. [...] Personally, I was a bit shocked to see him become a mod so shortly after posting a blatantly racist statement justifying the death of civilians in the Japanese thread. [...] However, if this is representive of his future decisions, then this site is about to get as boring as UR's noncontroversial posts.

Ding Ding Ding. Echoed my sentiments entirely.

	06-11-2003 13:27									#253
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Also , I just love this thread . Some of the best entertainemnt I've had on 'poly in days . Thanks , Asher .

	06-11-2003 13:30									#254
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And yes , the closing of that thread in the OT seems just a little unwarranted .

	06-11-2003 13:31									#255
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Oh boy...it has been an interesting last ten hours or so in this thread, hasn't it?

I can't wait to see what happens when Ming checks this thread again

For the crotch remark alone, Zylka look like he's hanging with his ass only inches above the water

And for the record: I know I said that I was against UR as a mod, but he was right to close that thread that Asher opened. It's only purpose was to bait UR.

Asmodean

	06-11-2003 13:36									#256
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quote: Originally posted by Asmodean And for the record: I know I said that I was against UR as a mod, but he was right to close that thread that Asher opened. It's only purpose was to bait UR.

Sorry, the reasons for the closure were wrong. If that was policy for the OTF, there would be no threads, no polls, no anything.

It may have been a poor excuse for a thread, but it is a terrible and pitiful excuse for a closure, and something that should be reviewed.

	06-11-2003 14:18									#257
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	06-11-2003 14:24									#258
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quote: Originally posted by aneeshm And yes , the closing of that thread in the OT seems just a little unwarranted .

It was perfectly warranted. Asher has been baiting UR incessantly, and *****ing like a little girl incessently since UR got promoted. Just to make sure there was no subtlety involved (not that there ever is with Asher), he mentioned UR by name right off the bat.

Not in the thread title, but in the explanation. That's still good enough to put it in violation of policy. And I don't doubt for a minute that that's exactly what Asher intended, so if UR or anyone else did nothing about the thread, he got his little dig in and could sit back and yuk it up, or if it got closed by UR (who could be seen online), then Asher had (in his mind) some new injustice to complain about.

Of course, once "victimized" by this "injustice", he had to immediately start a clone thread, and bait and insult UR some more. Well, that's all ended. Asher has a bigger problem to deal with now.

	06-11-2003 14:26									#259
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quote: Originally posted by Frozzy Sorry, the reasons for the closure were wrong. If that was policy for the OTF, there would be no threads, no polls, no anything.

It IS in fact the policy for the OT. Baiting other posters by name in thread titles, or polls, or hidden in the opening post of a thread is not allowed. And despite your contention, about 99.9% of threads and polls in OTF manage not to bait anyone by name.

	06-11-2003 14:34									#260
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quote: Originally posted by Zylka and I could potentially feel my index finger up your daughter's crotch. Want to talk about it?

Between your bumping old threads for no reason, spamming, going overboards on the insults to UR, and especially this little family member remark, that'll be two weeks for you Z.

And I think this thread and this "debate" have gone more than far enough.