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Giancarlo is offline Giancarlo
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$70 USD plus $16 shipping handling/CA 8.25% tax.

• 5.1 Dolby Digital Ready PC Home Theater System
135 Watts RMS of Total Power Output
• 5 Triple Speaker-Design and one Super Bass Subwoofer
• One speaker can aim in three different directions
• Anti-magnetic
• Independent controls
• Separate two channel stereo input for VCR or stereo television

http://www.justerusa.com/juster/dht-630.html

I'll probably have to get my hearing tested after a few weeks...

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Ok,


Good I can accept, great too....but sexy? Now we have a problem...Thought you had all figured out your orientation by now.




SPec.

Giancarlo is offline Giancarlo
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My orientation is figured out. Like the sky is blue. Giancarlo is gay. Nothing to it. What is the problem with me calling speakers sexy?

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Does that make him a trisexual?

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In Fez's eyes, they're not "nude gal" sexy, they're "nude guy" sexy.

I could make allusions to the shape of those stacks of speakers, but I won't

Seems pretty nice

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In Fez's eyes, they're not "nude gal" sexy, they're "nude guy" sexy.

I could make allusions to the shape of those stacks of speakers, but I won't

Seems pretty nice


Okay... next time I will keep my mouth shut.

DON'T GO THERE... damn and I thought I had a filthy mind...

Yeah they are nice with the 135 watts RMS.... I'll probably get evicted if I turn them up too high. Or the cops might start pounding the door.

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....the cops might start pounding the door.


Maybe not just the door....


Spec.

Giancarlo is offline Giancarlo
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You are chasing me off from my own thread!

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is the model itself called avia? 'cause that name's trademarked by a shoe company, isn't it?

Giancarlo is offline Giancarlo
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Made by Juster, but I guess the model is called Avia. If it is I don't see Juster getting sued. They are a big corporation that has been in the business for a long time.

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Trademarks only apply within the same industry.

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well, that's why they're called trademarks. but i'm wondering why avia would pick that name.

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I hope you had something other than corporate literature to convince you to buy these, Fez. I'm a firm believer that in audio -- especially speakers -- you should purchased based on listening tests. Specs tell virtually none of the story. The output power -- 15W/ch, plus 60W for the sub -- is pretty pathetic. But don't worry, that spec is actually pretty meaningless. What you want is wide frequency-range with great linearity. Something you can't get in this price range.

But if it's sexy looks you're after in a speaker...
Oh, wait. They're butt-ugly, too.

Enjoy!

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Trademarks only apply within the same industry.


That just gave me a great idea - Kleenex computers

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Spec, you mean, that if Fez has the music so loud and can't hear it, the cops will have to try again and pound Fezzes backdoor, just to get his attention? And if he's so hypnotized to the music, they have to brake in from the back by force with their batons up and muscles rigid from action?

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Can you string one of the speakers to your neighbor's house and talk through it?

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I hope you had something other than corporate literature to convince you to buy these, Fez. I'm a firm believer that in audio -- especially speakers -- you should purchased based on listening tests. Specs tell virtually none of the story. The output power -- 15W/ch, plus 60W for the sub -- is pretty pathetic. But don't worry, that spec is actually pretty meaningless. What you want is wide frequency-range with great linearity. Something you can't get in this price range.

But if it's sexy looks you're after in a speaker...
Oh, wait. They're butt-ugly, too.

Enjoy!


The wattage is 135 watts RMS, by far more than anything I had in the past. So I don't think so. And all the reviews said great things about these speakers. So before you say something absolutely stupid, I suggest you think for a second.

Pekka, that is just gross... and I thought I had a bad mind.

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The wattage is 135 watts RMS, by far more than anything I had in the past. So I don't think so. And all the reviews said great things about these speakers. So before you say something absolutely stupid, I suggest you think for a second.


Stupid? Hardly.

1. As I stated, specs are no way to judge speakers. Especially power.

2. I'm guessing that, in the past, you had standard stereo, where power specs are generally rated per channel RMS. In surround, the industry has moved to "system output" which is easier to state and, not coincidentally, looks more imipressive on paper.

3. Here's the actual power specs of your new speakers, as posted online by the manufacturer...
5 channels x 15 Watts = 75 Watts (center, front L/R, rear L/R)
1 channel x 60 Watts = 60 Watts (subwoofer)
System total = 75 + 60 = 135 Watts RMS.

So what you have (in terms of volume potential) is the equivalent of a 62.6 Watts RMS/channel stereo. Nothing wrong with that, Fez. Just the facts.

4. Personally, I'd be a little concerned that your subwoofer only extends down to 40 Hz, and your satellites only to 100Hz. These specs (which are often, um, liberally defined) indicate that you're not going to have really impressive bass response.

5. Re "far more power" than anything you've had -- Please note that this function is logarhythmic in nature. That is, to double the power of the system, you need to increase the wattage by a factor of 10. Yes, that means it takes a 1,000 Watt system to double the output power of a 100 Watt system.

Back to your system's power ratings -- In typical specs, these would refer to the power handling ability of the speakers. The actual system power is defined by the power output of your amplifier(s). These appear to be self-powered speakers, where the system plugs into an AC wall outlet. (Odd that this is never actually stated in their online literature; "self-powered" is a popular buzzword.) Presumably, this means the little amp that lives within each enclosure is well-matched to the characteristecs of the speaker they're powering.

Fez, I'm not trying to rag you or your choice. (Well, maybe a little. ) But I've been in the pro audio industry for many years and don't like to see misconceptions (like "more power = better quality" and "louder = better") continually foisted on the public.

Glad to hear there are positive reviews. That's great news.

Just as "beauty is in the eye of the beholder," good sound is "in the ear of the behearer."
I really do hope you're very happy with your new system.

Sava is offline Sava
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Jrabbit is right... more power does not mean better quality. I've had a lot of experience in car audio. I'm not saying anything about your purchase Fez. They look like good speakers.

Enjoy!

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Do you have a nice soundcard for these speakers, Fez?

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fez, you wanna trade speakers? i've only got dinky ones that attach to the monitor...

it's a fair trade...

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Pretty sweet. I got a pair of Kef q15.2's at 100W RMS.

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Sexy? Urgh. I hope you're taste in men is better than your love for oil barrel-esque speakers.

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Those are awful, ugly looking speakers! What possessed you to buy speakers that look like oil barrels?!?!

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See, Diplomat knows what I'm talking about.

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Originally posted by -Jrabbit


Stupid? Hardly.

1. As I stated, specs are no way to judge speakers. Especially power.

2. I'm guessing that, in the past, you had standard stereo, where power specs are generally rated per channel RMS. In surround, the industry has moved to "system output" which is easier to state and, not coincidentally, looks more imipressive on paper.

3. Here's the actual power specs of your new speakers, as posted online by the manufacturer...
5 channels x 15 Watts = 75 Watts (center, front L/R, rear L/R)
1 channel x 60 Watts = 60 Watts (subwoofer)
System total = 75 + 60 = 135 Watts RMS.

So what you have (in terms of volume potential) is the equivalent of a 62.6 Watts RMS/channel stereo. Nothing wrong with that, Fez. Just the facts.

4. Personally, I'd be a little concerned that your subwoofer only extends down to 40 Hz, and your satellites only to 100Hz. These specs (which are often, um, liberally defined) indicate that you're not going to have really impressive bass response.

5. Re "far more power" than anything you've had -- Please note that this function is logarhythmic in nature. That is, to double the power of the system, you need to increase the wattage by a factor of 10. Yes, that means it takes a 1,000 Watt system to double the output power of a 100 Watt system.

Back to your system's power ratings -- In typical specs, these would refer to the power handling ability of the speakers. The actual system power is defined by the power output of your amplifier(s). These appear to be self-powered speakers, where the system plugs into an AC wall outlet. (Odd that this is never actually stated in their online literature; "self-powered" is a popular buzzword.) Presumably, this means the little amp that lives within each enclosure is well-matched to the characteristecs of the speaker they're powering.

Fez, I'm not trying to rag you or your choice. (Well, maybe a little. ) But I've been in the pro audio industry for many years and don't like to see misconceptions (like "more power = better quality" and "louder = better") continually foisted on the public.

Glad to hear there are positive reviews. That's great news.

Just as "beauty is in the eye of the beholder," good sound is "in the ear of the behearer."
I really do hope you're very happy with your new system.


I don't get ripped off. I did a lot of ****ing research. I mean literally I was on the computer for an hour or two looking through reviews of all different speakers in that price range. These speakers were originally priced at $199.

I am not an idiot in this field.

I also don't run an music studio or something so quite frankly I don't need ANYTHING TOP OF THE LINE.

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Sexy? Urgh. I hope you're taste in men is better than your love for oil barrel-esque speakers.


I am a capitalist... so oil barrel-esque speakers it is. Considering my dad used to work for haliburton.. but that is another issue entirely... back to the topic...

And you'll hopefully see a picture of me and my date soon. Yeah I got a date for friday...

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The topic being your atrocious taste in home furnishings? Honestly honey, we're trying to keep up an image here of gay men being the source of all fashion and design. If they ever knew that half the time we wear old sweaters and jeans, drank instant coffee cause it's too much work to grind the beans, and watched the TV while eating pizza, we'd be ruined. The entire gay establishment rests on the one half-truth that we're two steps ahead of the curve. So return those oil barrels, get something with some curves in it, and play your part! Oh I'm going to withdraw your membership of the gay club!

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The topic being your atrocious taste in home furnishings? Honestly honey, we're trying to keep up an image here of gay men being the source of all fashion and design.


I am not following any gay stereotypes. Being a capitalist, I will follow those stereotypes.

quote:
If they ever knew that half the time we wear old sweaters and jeans, drank instant coffee cause it's too much work to grind the beans, and watched the TV while eating pizza, we'd be ruined.


Not every gay guy is like those on "Queer for the Straight Guy"... a show I am interested in.

quote:
So return those oil barrels, get something with some curves in it, and play your part!


Seriously I need something that will be effective... and those speakers were the most attractive in that price range... I am not returning anything. My room is pretty organized as is, but nonetheless I am not returning those speakers.

quote:
Oh I'm going to withdraw your membership of the gay club!


Okay did you sign me up for something I didn't know about?

Look, Starchild... you can't impose fashion or style statements onto me. I am not a typical gay guy. I am just an average ordinary guy who wants to hear AK-47 fire coming from Vietcong as I blast commies away... and these speakers will accomplish that from what I have been reading.

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I don't get ripped off. I did a lot of ****ing research. I mean literally I was on the computer for an hour or two looking through reviews of all different speakers in that price range. These speakers were originally priced at $199.

I am not an idiot in this field.

I also don't run an music studio or something so quite frankly I don't need ANYTHING TOP OF THE LINE.


Chill, dude. It's cool.

I tried to make nice and wished you well with your purchase. No need to be so defensive.

 
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