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Googlie is offline Googlie
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I would hate to be rushing them all to safety any time an IoD appears on the horizon.


You can both trance and 3-res armor your trawlers. They'll usually sirvive the first IoD attack, and unlike mindworms, IoD's rarely hunt in packs

The 3 res gives a +25% bonus and trance a +50%, so the basic defense value moves to 1.75, halved for their non-combat status to .875. But if you have a bioenhancement center (or the CF) and a naval yard (or the MCC) then their morale will be +4, so it'll survive most psi attacks

Fusion, or better, reactor also adds exponential combat value as well as cheapening the cost

(and that's a good combo for foil and cruiser probe teams, seaformers and transports as well)

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....halved for their non-combat status.....


I believe that the non-combat penalty is removed for armored units. I make 3res Trance Transports for ocean pod popping and they survive IoDs 95% of the time.

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And to answer the gravedigger's question, converting two drones to specialists means you only have two drones left to apply psych upon, not four. 8 psych on two drones equals two talents.

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And to answer the gravedigger's question, converting two drones to specialists means you only have two drones left to apply psych upon, not four. 8 psych on two drones equals two talents.


That would be correct when dealing with normal drones. However I think Kody was talking about a base with bureaucracy-drones, very red and unhappy drones, or whatever you want to call them. IIRC those first need 2 psych to convert them to normal drones, and only then are they converted to workers and talents provided there is still psych available.

Edit: Ah, never mind. I just found the solution myself. The first 4 psych is used to convert the two b-drones to normal drones. And the next 4 psych is used to convert one drone to a talent. Then a military unit or drone control facility can be used to convert the second drone to a worker. As last the HGP kicks in and convert the worker to a talent.

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I agree, pod booming is nothing compared to pop booming. Then again, I might build some colony pods when I'm pop booming and later add them to my bases in order to bypass base limits, but usually I'd use the pods to found more bases.


I do this sometimes, pop boom and when the base reaches hab limits build colony pods. Once the boom is over, use the pods to raise the base above the hab limits, sometimes significantly. I also do a similar thing in mid to late game where I keep booming and every base but one builds colony pods and send them to the base that isn't building pods. As it reaches it nutrient limits (or whatever limit you choose) another base quits building pods and all the remaining bases send their pods to that base.

 
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