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Kalius is offline Kalius
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I have 2 OSes I can run ATM: Windows 98 Second Edition, or Windows Millenium. Which should I use?

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98 can be stable.
ME will be crashing much more often. Wasn't it dubbed the "Toy version" of windows?

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I've had 98 since...well, '98, on a PIII 450.

Crashes are extremely rare, and I've never had to reinstall.

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WinMe is much more stable than Win98SE

...during the time I had WinMe, I only saw the blue screen about 50% of the times I saw it in Win98SE


...and it's much faster...





As long as WinME exists, there's no reason at all to install 98SE...

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I could write a long post, but suffice it to say that I would write the complete opposite of the post immediately above this one.

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98 can be stable.
ME will be crashing much more often. Wasn't it dubbed the "Toy version" of windows?


They both fit in the category "Toy Windows". I doubt even Asher would say anything else. 98SE has overall a better reputation, though.

Ari Rahikkala is offline Ari Rahikkala
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If you really honestly have to use a Windows 9x series OS, use 98SE. Not that I'd have used either that or ME a lot, but of all of the Windows ME boxes I remember having used extensively (for more than a couple of hours) in my life, 100% have been damned unstable and broken. Granted, there's only been one, but still, 98SE is generally considered to be much, much better than ME. Generally enough that I would definitely choose 98SE.

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I recommend Win2k Always had problems with the 9x versions.

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I'd go with 98SE.

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98se.

when i first got my new computer for college, it came preinstalled with me.

i turned it on... first thing, after i get through all that "new install" bullshit...
blue screen.

then it didn't boot.

so i just said **** this and installed a beta of xp.

me is like 98, only they took a chainsaw and cut off the dos part. but since chainsaws aren't particularly accurate, they also took out a lot of what made 98 more stable than me.

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I've been using Win ME and no problems.
Why would you back up to 98 ?

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AFAIK winME IS win98se with a few slight additions such as winMP7 (I think it was 7 maybe 6) that were downloadable from MS for free. So there should be no difference in stability.

EDIT win98 was very buggy though.

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quote:
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I've been using Win ME and no problems.
Why would you back up to 98 ?





Woohoo, finally one on my side



Usually 100% are against what I think




I know two other people who have tried WinME. One of them used it a longer time than me, and also had fewer problems that in Win98SE

The other one had it for 1 hour, then he decided to uninstall it... I asked why, did he have problems with it or such? He said he did not have any problems with it, but he decided to uninstall it because he has heard it wasn't stable...
I've heard many people saying "I've heard it wasn't stable", but I've still got to meet one IRL who actually had more problems with it, than with earlier windows...

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I voted for Bananadine, because I hated all the variants of win16.

I suffered through Windows NT 3.5, 3.51, 4.0 and finally happy when Windows 2000 hit the scene.

Um, what's "Bananadine" a version of Red Hat?

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Um, what's "Bananadine" a version of Red Hat?


You don't know about the Great Banana? You heretic!

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Untill we recently upgraded at work, we used 98Se.
I use ME at home.

ME has been considerbably more stable in my experience.

They both suck. But ME sucked less.

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You don't know about the Great Banana? You heretic!




All I know is that your idol, the "Bananna Smilie" doesn't work

Here's my proof:

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You're not looking closely enough... in the center of the red X, there's a tiny Banana

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Best move I made in regard to operating systems, was to switch from Me to XP.

Me was a rushed out product so that microsoft could make more money off of the turn of the century/millenium.

Maybe it's more stable and faster now than it was a couple of years ago due to patches etc, but when I upgraded to XP, I saw an immediate improvement in the speed and stability of my machine.

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Yeah, XP is much better than 9x/me

I have used it since one of the late beta's...

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You're not looking closely enough... in the center of the red X, there's a tiny Banana



Ah HAH! you must link in the graphic!

When I select it from the smilies provided by apolyton, the banana never works -- I figured he must have done something to get banned by Ming or something...


Edit: spelling

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I just have that smiliey on my own server

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From a techie site

"Okay, so why Win98SE? Certain upgrades to functions, newer versions of files, but most importantly, full use of the file caching system. When Win98 was being written, the programmers had no idea that MP3's and long video files would become so popular. The defauly caching system couldn't handle such big files and you would get pauses while the system loaded the next section of the file. Go to Start/Run and enter sysedit with Win95. Open System.ini. Under the heading [VCACHE] you will probably see nothing. With Win98SE you might see something like this:

[vcache]
minfilecache=2048
maxfilecache=12288
chunksize=256

There are other improvements, but this is the big one. (In my opinion, not worth it since you can change these setting manually in Win98 and Win95 -- but don't put this in Win95--it doesn't support chunksize.)

Okay, so why WinME. The most important difference with WinME is that DOS emulation was dropped completely. A big mistake, in my opinion. PnP was upgraded and streamlined -- but unfortunately, many of the things you could tweak with Win9.x are disabled in WinME. It's basically Windows for dummies."

As I said they're virtually the same. Stick with win98se and do the upgrades (although they may be hard to find since MS no longer supports win98se)

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Been using WinME for two and a half years, and I can count all the BSODs I've gotten on my hands, my feet, and someone else's hands.

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I just have that smiliey on my own server


Is that where Mr. Banana got banned too?

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I consider it fine if I can make it through a clean install without a BSD. I never turn em off- you never know if they'll start again. So far XP-pro on my latest PC has been a dream.

 
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