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Rogan Josh
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Originally posted by Spec
Jesus, imo, was a gay magician that fooled everyone.
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Do you understand that this comment is offensive?
In fact I think this should be a banning offensive.
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shawnmmcc
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Argument 1 (courtesy of Adam Corola). I listen to this show "Love Lines" on the radio if I go into work late on a weekday. They had a young man who called who manstrubated to male porn, but had a girl friend, and was confused. Adam made a point. For most men, imagine two guys getting it on. Yech.
Exactly. This is a visceral, heterosexual male reaction, at least for a lot of us. It doesn't mean I have to hate gays. But we are different. An erection is about as involuntary as they come. You could use pupil dilation, I can almost guarantee you the result would be the same. It is NOT voluntary, at least for the vast majority of gay males.
They may be genetic elements (actually, in some mammals homosexual behavior has a bunch of reinforcing traits as long as it stays below a certain threshhold, google it using "animal behavior"). Things may get miswired due to the fetal environment, either something just goes wrong (chaos theory) or one of a host of chemicals screws the poor kid up. It may be a nurture problem, as in a boy he was serially abused by a male and now his primary fixation is with other males. It may be only one element, or a combination of all three.
IT'S NOT VOLUNTARY. Okay. I like women. Always have, always will. I will never have sex with a man, at least not voluntarily. I couldn't become aroused if I tried around a male. Ditto in the opposite direction (gay male with a lady). Your behavior towards your urges can be controlled. Who you find arousing in innate.
Argument 2. My own. Occam's razor. Okay, let's see. I want to volunteer to cut the available partners to me from 50% of the human race to somewhere between 2 and 8%. Great move.
I will elect to be the last distinct group about whom disparaging jokes are still considered acceptable. Plus, in certain areas certain neaderthal types (forgive me Mr. Neaderthal, this isn't fair to you) still find it acceptable, nay, definite fun to go "bashing" my kind.
When they finish, there are still law enforcement types out there who will do nothing about it. While most of our uniformed gendarmes wouldn't tolerate gay bashing, go out into the rural south. While still a minority, there is an unfortunately large minority, even in law enforcement, who believe this behavior is acceptable.
I will voluntarily choose to be just about the last group it is perfectly legal to discriminate against, so much so that while not impossible, I have to hide who I am to serve my country, even if I am a patriot and am willing to die for it.
Then certain other people, including my own President, will call me a sinner, while others of that ilk will call me damned. They will quote their Holy Book against me. Yep, all in all, this sounds like a damn fine conscious choice to make.
You can argue some people make choices just to be ornery. They are a tiny majority of the gay community. Most in that community are just everyday people, like you and I, with one difference. Actually, there's a second one. They are statistically less likely to be pedophiles. If you want the most likely candidates, they are male relatives of little girls. Funny about that, isn't it.
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07-11-2003 20:31
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