04-12-2003 13:49									#31
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You know... the only real chance at anything anymore is to convince ND of the truth... that they are the rusted fourth wheel of the Lego-GoW-VoX-ND coalition... the one that's going to get knocked off and run over once the threat of GS is dealt with.

Unless ND finally sees the light, both they, GS, and any resurgent RP are all doomed.

	04-12-2003 15:00									#32
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That is a possibility, but I doubt ND would turn on GoW until RP is gone. Then ND may ally with GS against Lego-GoW-Vox

	04-12-2003 15:50									#33
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quote: Originally posted by BigFree That is a possibility, but I doubt ND would turn on GoW until RP is gone. Then ND may ally with GS against Lego-GoW-Vox

See, that's the point... that may be too late for them.

ND needs to wake up and realize they're being sold out. I have little hope that they'll do so, however... as I'm sure GoW and Legoland are counting on, ND is in tunnel-vision mode concerning where this war is heading.

	04-12-2003 16:29									#34
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Please note that I've tried to subtly warn Legoland off of the whole "we're the clean team" bullshit.

I think the subtle and diplomatic approach should suffice for the public forum and I'd ask that everyone PLEASE respect that and keep your mouths shut about any agreements we had with Legoland.

They'll be a time for talking about that later... there's really nothing to be gained now... and if we're ever going to use this card, I'd rather save it for a time when it would actually be useful. Right now, it wouldn't do a *damn* thing to help us and would just flare up emotions in the public forum.

So please respect my request.

Thanks.

	05-12-2003 21:08									#35
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I won't mess with diplomatic things. The monarchists are keeping me busy enough.

Togas, after I read that PM of Vondrack I'd say this: Let him suck GoW's **** if he likes, but don't let us get irritated about it, it's not woth it. Lego is of no use to us except for leaking info that should be kept secret, such as promises made with GoW. Then we use them as a tool rather than a friend, we have passed that station.

EDIT: Hey, it's censored

Aidun

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	16-12-2003 06:47									#36
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Geez, some things never change, like Arnelos graying long hair. And you can't trust GoW - oh wait, I'm about 10 months behind the time.

Just thouight I throw in some useless nonsense so anyoine who remembers me would see I can still read and type.

Feel free to send PMs of how you're all doing.

Viva Espana.

	16-12-2003 14:44									#37
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OMG!! It's one of the originals! Welcome back...sorry that RP is almost dead now. We really tried hard, but it's very difficult fighting against two Golden Aged-backed Civs at one time with both of them having their Offensive heavy UU's!

Anyways, nice to see you around. Don't be shy.

	16-12-2003 16:43									#38
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jdjdjd! Welcome back. Unfortunately when the Spanish Empire is a bit in decline, but whatever we tried, little could prevent our downfall. However, together with GS we remain in the game and after this war the big war has still to come. Therefore, no victory for us, but still chance on a nice ranking.

Aidun

	17-12-2003 06:27									#39
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Back in the old days, I remember Legoland was our closest friend. Times sure have changed.

I'll have to look at the game and see how bad things are.

Since I was last around I got a nice new computer and installed PTW. Of course, I'm still behind the times since I don't have Conquests yet.

I guess there's no reason to open a law practice in this game.

	17-12-2003 08:25									#40
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jdjdjd!

Yeah, back when I was last here, Legoland were our closest friends.

A lot has changed since both of us took off many months ago. I have since returned (re-activated on this team around August) and discovered that Lego were apparently one of our worst enemies.

Anyhow, yes, I recommend you read up on stuff and try to catch up. You can also just idle a bit and pay attention to recent events to catch up on our current situation.

Feel free to jump in and contribute whenever you want.

	17-12-2003 09:38									#41
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jdjdjd,

It's nice to have you visiting, brings back memories of the grand days of Spain's past.

Things aren't too good for Spain right now, but we still maintain a strong bond for each other and a great debt of gratitude to Gathering Storm, of all nations, for helping us in our struggles against the ND/GOW/Lego alliance.

--Togas

	18-12-2003 05:48									#42
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Its nice to be back. I've been checking in at the chats, maybe I'll catch you all one time.

Do you guys have a team in any of the other games? or any other democracy games?

	18-12-2003 07:51									#43
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Most of us are active on the Apolyton ISDG team, which is Apolyton vs other Civ sites. If you'd like to join that, Arnelos might be able to authorize you. If not, it's still Beta.

Some of us are also involved in a new C3C team demo game over at MasterZen Online. Drop me a PM if you're interested and I'll tell you more about it.

--Togas

	18-12-2003 09:53									#44
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quote: Originally posted by Togas Most of us are active on the Apolyton ISDG team, which is Apolyton vs other Civ sites. If you'd like to join that, Arnelos might be able to authorize you. If not, it's still Beta.

MarkG is holding my and Trip's mod powers hostage until we submit that News Post, so you once you have approval, go ahead and have someone sumbit it to MarkG and ask him to active mod powers for Arnelos and Trip!

As for team authorization, Beta handles that.

quote: Some of us are also involved in a new C3C team demo game over at MasterZen Online. Drop me a PM if you're interested and I'll tell you more about it.

Indeed... the teams...

MZO C3C Democracy Game

American Imperialists (lead by Arnelos and Rhothaerill, with members including conmcb25, ZargonX, Arrian, Nimitz, Theseus, E_T, Oliverfa, HTower, bootstoots, and CivGeneral)

Canadian Imperialists (lead by Dominae, Panzer32, and Beta, though also including notyoueither, Nuclear Master, Konquest02, pikesfan, dejon, and vondrack)

Mercenaries (Togas, UnOrthOdOx, MrWhereItsAt, Kloreep, BigFree, badams52, HongHu)

Feudal Team (GhengisFarb, UberKruX, mrmitchell, ayronis, Aggie)

Monarchist Imperialists (OPD, Aidun, Nuclear Winter, History Guy, redstar1, statusperfect)

1BC (lead by Mongoose201, it's the 1BC forum team)

French (lead by flint and Hellgate, it's the French forum team... astrologix is on the team)

Latino Dictators (Master Zen, Niessuh, The Slayer, Manya, ydiiby, Alfred Palacios, Magno_uy, Hammerland, amidala, Gosties, GerardDream, N35t0r)

Note that you'll need to know French to be on the French Team and need to know Spanish to be on the Latino Dictators team. The Mercenary Team is Togas' baby and they're not playing to "win" by traditional means, so you can ask him about that. The Feudal Team's idea is to split up their empire into fiefdoms each independently controlled by their 5 players, who each can conduct diplomacy seperately with the outside world and with each other and need not help one another if they don't want to.

Team 1BC is a team from the 1BigCommunity Civ website, so their forum is over there. I believe the French Team is also using their own site's forum, much as Neu Demogyptica did for the PTWDG here.

The other PBEM Democracy Game is the PTWDG2 here at Apolyton, which is the funny, zany, crazy PBEM Democracy Game. The teams...

Apolyton PTWDG2

Team Sunshine (Togas, BigFree, E_T, Trip, Nuclear Master, HarryH, BigFurryMonster, Nuclear Winter, ruby_maser, WhiteBandit, etc.)

Monty Python (Sir Ralph, bootstoots, Darekill, dejon, LzPrst, Octavian X, Vlad Antlerkov, etc.)

Team Monkey (Beta, Hot_Enamel, conmcb25, Konquest02, MJW, Zero, etc.)

Latin Lovers (Niessuh, The Slayer, Master Zen, astrologix, Chilean President, Magno_uy, MrWhereItsAt, ybiiby, etc.)

Cake or Death (Arrian, Cort Haus, alva, FrustratedPoet, ixnay, Shiber, Theseus, etc.)

Tabemono (Kloreep, ZargonX, Aidun, Sharpe, GodKing, Aggie, jdd2007, mrmitchell, Nimitz, Rhothaerill, UnOrthOdOx, etc.)

Muhammad Al-Sahaf Team (OPD, Arnelos, bongo, vulture, Dissident, Thud, etc.)

It should be noted that you'll need to know how to use Spanish to play on the Latin Lovers team. Each of the teams have humorous themes. Tabemono is the food loving (and stuffing) team, Latin Lovers tries to seduce all of the other teams' women, Cake or Death is based on a comedy group, Monty Python is based on that well-known comedy group, Sunshine is the happy peace-loving hippie team, Team Monkey insists on living in the trees and throwing feces at the other teams, and the Muhammad Al-Sahaf Team (MAST) exists to behave in a ludicrous fashion in homage to the life and times of Muhammad Al-Sahaf, the Iraqi Information Minister.

	18-12-2003 15:25									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Arnelos Note that you'll need to know French to be on the French Team and need to know Spanish to be on the Latino Dictators team.

... And English to be on the Monarchist Imperialists team. We're British after all...

Aidun