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Pekka is offline Pekka
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I think I'm becoming a puss.. Today, I was challenged by obnoxious teen. I didn't take the challenge. And he was a real little punk. It's not like I didn't want to.. But something came into me and I just continued walking and he kept shouting insults at me. What's wrong with me? I should have stomped his little wannabegangsta 120 pound ass to pulp and injure his friend as well.

Why? It's not like I feel any better now. I did the correct thing, but I didn't do the right thing, which is to teach a lesson to these little punks who think they own the neighbourhood with their rotten attitudes and hanging clothes.

But next time I will trash them all.

Also, it was dark, and this lady came up from nowhere and I honked the horn (in traffic) and she pounded on my hood once and gave me the eye. What did I do? Opened the window and said sorry, and when she insulted me, I said I'm sorry again. WTF?! I should have insulted her ass all the way to biaatchville she came from.

am I sick?

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Also, I deliberately dodged gym today, knowing I had to do sparring with this dude I knew would hit me hard.
It's like I'm getting submitted.

I say NOOOO! I will not fall under demands
I say NOOOO! I will not continue being a sissie
I say NOO! I will not lose this game!

I need to get my act together.

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Yes, yes you are.

No, you are just a good guy deep down. I would need to be like you sometimes....Would have saved me much trouble.

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You're just feeling a bit down. Low confidence perhaps.

Anyway, I love ignoring teens. The most valuable thing you can give to a child is attention.

I'm a tight arsed git. Anyway, I just look forward to the day when those troubled teens are pushed into the shower with a bunch of life sentence convicts.

No doubt about it. I am sick.

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Cruddy, no no no.. the best is when someone who thinks he's a tough guy, wanting to show his buddies how he can be a bad ass gets submitted . They don't think you will respond to insults. They are used to that. No one will step up. The surprise is when you suddenly turn around and say 'bring it on *****' and kick his ass to the gutter. Usually if you just turn around and look like you're not to be messed with, it's funny because the insulted punk starts is cauight by surprise and you can see he's usually little scared at that point, but he needs to remain tough because his friends are watching. THat's the best time to rumble . TOtal humiliation. I don't do this naturally, but at least usually I do look back if he really wants to go, but they usually just keep shouting. This kid wanted to go. I dodged. I'm a sissie . I lost. To a punk teen. I bet right now he's talking all that.. thinking he's bad. I prefer he'd be using some ice in his forehead and trying to avoid the subject 'man you fought bad!' with his buddies .

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NO. The problem is I don't want to be a regular chump. Someone who goes 9-5 and gets insulted by little punks.
God damn I need to rethink some things. I got a PM from someone and he made me realize something. I'm not doing what I really want to do. My passion is elsewhere.
I need to start training.

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Puah! You call yourself a man? Go and smash a foot of yours on his face so hard he won't believe what happened

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The punkarse and the old lady were just your desire not to cause comfrontation... Has nothing to do with being a sissy. You are just realizing that it is a lot easier to be a part of the solution instead of part of the problem...

The ditching gym because you don't want to spar makes you a) a sissy, b) gay, or c) lazy... you decide.

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Japher, I'm not very confrontational person.. I don't go looking for trouble, I don't insult people, I try to ignore like I didn't see it/didn't hear it, but when it's right to my face.. man this is not right.
And about the gym, that's pure 100% sissy, because the other case I'm sure I'd be victorious, but this case I think I knew I'd get my ass handed to me. What's the world coming to.

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but this case I think I knew I'd get my ass handed to me.


Then you were just being smart, I guess.

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So we still idealize masculinity as being violent??

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So we still idealize masculinity as being violent??


It's not a matter of what we 'idealize as be masculine' it's a matter of idealizing masculinity.

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There's nothing wrong with teaching lesson to punks. It's always good. Because they have ordered it. You just have to serve it.

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There's nothing wrong with walking away from a fight. I've had people try and provoke me into a fight, but fighting just doesn't interest me. If I was backed into a corner then sure, but otherwise no. Mostly people don't pick fights with me though as I'm 6'5" (196cm) and 235 pounds.

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As elections for the new Pope are getting closer, Pekka is preparing a starting position for himself by turning the other cheek. Will he be the first Finn Pope? The world awaits....

Caligastia is offline Caligastia
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There's nothing wrong with teaching lesson to punks. It's always good. Because they have ordered it. You just have to serve it.


Why allow yourself to be manipulated by what they desire? Walk away secure in the knowledge that you could have kicked their arses and leave it at that.

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Besides, what's manly about beating someone up who is physically weaker than you??

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Don't listen to this Caligastia wimp Pekka. You chickened and it happens to everyone, but you admitted to have done so, now this is serious

Caligastia is offline Caligastia
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Calling me a wimp to my face would be more manly VetLegion...why not come on over?

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You probably could've turned around, walked up to the kid, and while his quaking in his boots, tell him, "If you don't want to get your ass kicked, grow the **** up." Then walk away, and ignore his parting shots (unless it's gun shots, I dunno how often that happens in Finland). Maybe it'll dawn on him not to be a dumbass in the future; at least he'll choose his targets more carefully.
The lady I would've said sorry once- after all, she's a lot more squishy soft than your car. I would've ignored her at that point, and if she kept pounding on your car or threatening you, SLOWWLY creep forward until she gets the hint and gets out of your way.
As for the gym, yeah you wimped out but sounds like that was a good idea.

Anyway, avoiding fights isn't wimpy. It's a sign of maturity. Any self-defense instructor worth their salt will tell you that the best confrontation is the one that never happens.
Just be sure you can handle yourself when it's unavoidable.

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You are just becoming an adult. There is no real upside to fighting when you don't have to.

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Yeah, you did wimp out at the gym. Sorry.

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Pekka, retaliating against punk teens isn't always a good idea. Let me explain.

7 years ago, I was 19, I was walking down a street in a small town where I lived and 2 teen punk asses (they were both 16) were comin twards me. At the time I had weird hair and weird clothing (Ahhhh teen years). So they started laughing before they even came to 20 feet of me. Once they were up close to me, like 2 feet, one of the guy said: Va te faire couper les cheveux le pouilleux!! (Which means go get your hair cut looser) So I answered: Pis ta mere elle. (Which means: And your mom?) So the guy gets all tuff and says in french: Yo you wanna get some. I immediatly turned around, hit him in the stomach, his friend tried to help, I pushed him on the ground, and then I took the first guy put him in a public trash can and it did not fall over because it was screewed to a Lamp Post. Then I went home.
You think that's funny....well....no. Because on the next day, I got a phone call from a lady, that turned out to be his mom. She said she was gonna sue me because his son had a 10 inch long cut in the back. Turns out the kid had been cut by the trash can when I put him in there. (I think he got cut when he tried to get out...but that's another story)
Luckly, I managed to convince his mom that he started in with his friend and that I was only walking home. I told her: Why the hell would I attack two teens for nothing?
How did they find me....I lost my wallet while fighting with them.....

So there, not moving is sometimes better than taking the leep.


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Besides, what's manly about beating someone up who is physically weaker than you??


What isn't?

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Pekka, you are just maturing. A real man can take an insult without freaking out, as he knows it's just bullshit anyway. Wait until you are living together with a pregnant woman, that's when the real insults start. Not to mention what you will hear if you try to chat with her during the labour process. Ignoring insults will make you a better husband and a better father.

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I can take insults.. that's ok. But I have hard time taking them in to my face repeatedly. It's not so much as to proof myself that I am a man, it's more 'die you punk scum!' kind of thing. You know? And I'm not talking about fighting per se.. just dodging things that is confrontation.
I don't fight you see. I only defend myself or my friends, or my property.

Besides, this kid was not physically very weak. Sure he was a little smaller, but he seemed to be normal. And I'm not freakishly strong or big either. I'm just a normal guy myself too. Things get exaggarated here. It would have been pure 1-on-1, plus he had a compensator, a friend.
So in reality they were the ones with more power than me. Besides, these guys hang around in the part of the city I live in. This means, they will keep shouting and insulting me everytime they see me. So it's not like it's some random thing, it'll happen in the future.

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Don't worry Pekka, you did good.

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I guess so.. I can't lash out to everyone who challenges me, more so as I'm getting older, but the gym thing bothers me.

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Here's a good saying for people like you, pekka:

He fights and runs away lives to run away another day.

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Besides, this kid was not physically very weak. Sure he was a little smaller, but he seemed to be normal. And I'm not freakishly strong or big either. I'm just a normal guy myself too. Things get exaggarated here. It would have been pure 1-on-1, plus he had a compensator, a friend.
So in reality they were the ones with more power than me. Besides, these guys hang around in the part of the city I live in. This means, they will keep shouting and insulting me everytime they see me. So it's not like it's some random thing, it'll happen in the future.


As long as your body language doesn't say, "I'm a target," you should be fine. Whenever you expect to see these guys just walk tall, head held high, confidence in your stride, etc. Most people will leave alone someone who looks like he can handle himself. Basically you need to get across to these guys that you don't care what they say or do. IIRC what I did in Chicago was acknowledge the guys were there in a respectful way, then ignored them from then on. Walking tall the whole time.

 
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