09-11-2003 00:53									#1
	Which software to buy? Got spare money?

New to Civ3, but an old school Civ2 player.

I'm just wondering what software one needs to be fully up-to-date with Civ3. Does C3C have PtW built in? If it does, do I just need to buy the regular Civ3 (not GotY or Gold) and C3C, then patch it to cover everything?

Thank you.

	09-11-2003 01:17									#2
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You need Basic Civ3 and C3C. The latter fully includes PtW.

	09-11-2003 01:58									#3
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Does it, Sir Ralph? Fully?

I installed the release version of C3C and cannot find a PTW executable anywhere except where PTW was originally installed. So then, Someone would be unable to fill a seat in a PTW PBEM.

However, the content is fully included, so...

If you buy Civ3 Gold, that does include PTW for sure. Not much difference, it's just one of 3 available Civ3 releases, so you have to make sure.

	09-11-2003 02:14									#4
	Re: Which software to buy? Got spare money?

quote: Originally posted by busterchaplin New to Civ3, but an old school Civ2 player. I'm just wondering what software one needs to be fully up-to-date with Civ3. Does C3C have PtW built in? If it does, do I just need to buy the regular Civ3 (not GotY or Gold) and C3C, then patch it to cover everything? Thank you.

hi ,

buy CIV III GOLD and CIV III CONQUESTS

this way you have all you need

and since a lot of store give a reduction if you buy for over 50 usd , .....

have a nice day

	09-11-2003 03:35									#5
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I think nye is correct, and thus, if you want to play in a PTW PBEM (such as the 3 main demogames being played here at 'poly), follow Panag's suggestion.

	09-11-2003 06:50									#6
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quote: However, the content is fully included, so...

In other words, they delivered on letter, not on eugh content.
Hum. No, that's not quite correct.
Can anyone formulate this correctly for me please.

	09-11-2003 09:02									#7
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither Does it, Sir Ralph? Fully? I installed the release version of C3C and cannot find a PTW executable anywhere except where PTW was originally installed. So then, Someone would be unable to fill a seat in a PTW PBEM. However, the content is fully included, so... If you buy Civ3 Gold, that does include PTW for sure. Not much difference, it's just one of 3 available Civ3 releases, so you have to make sure.

Installing Conquests does install PTW, including an executable file, on your computer. But if you already have PTW installed it won't install it again.

Purchasing Conquests will give you a completely playable version of PTW that can be used for PTW PBEM's, Multiplayer, or Single Player.

	09-11-2003 09:08									#8
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Thanks.

That should pull a few doubters over the line.

	09-11-2003 09:30									#9
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Great! That's interesting that Civ3 Gold and C3C overlap like that, because on Amazon.com:

Basic Civ3 ($14.88) + C3C ($24.99) = $39.87
while
Civ3 Gold = $39.99

Getting basic Civ3 and C3C is fine for me. Are there any great perks to buying Civ3 Gold, or is it just milking the series for what it's worth?

	09-11-2003 10:54									#10
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hah.. any discounts for those of us that bought all 3 seperately?

	09-11-2003 11:12									#11
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quote: Originally posted by PeaSoup hah.. any discounts for those of us that bought all 3 seperately?

No, but we did not have to wait either. The gold version is to get the original game on the shelves in some stores that no longer carry it. Otherwise some people could not buy C3C as they have no access to the original version. Now they will have, hopefully.

	10-11-2003 19:44									#12
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quote: Originally posted by busterchaplin New to Civ3, but an old school Civ2 player. I'm just wondering what software one needs to be fully up-to-date with Civ3. Does C3C have PtW built in? If it does, do I just need to buy the regular Civ3 (not GotY or Gold) and C3C, then patch it to cover everything? Thank you.

An old school CIV2 player? Do you realize what you have been missing?? Get out there and get this game now! You will love it! CIV3 is the best thing ever to happen to the CIV series Anyway, go ahead and buy CIV3 Gold and then get C3C. Do be advised that C3C includes PtW and it clearly shows that it does on the box. So if you can find original CIV3 for cheaper then the gold edition, get the original instead and get C3C. Either way you will have everything that was released for the game.

	11-11-2003 06:08									#13
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Which is, IMO a surprising yet very good move, including effectively both expansions in the latest one.

One question - if you have PtW (separately bought) and install Conquests, if you want to play PtW or Civ3 Vanilla by starting their.exe files, will you be prompted for that individual CD or always just the latest one (ie Conquests(?

For example: I have all three installed, yet each has a separate directory and .exe file. I start Civ3 vanilla, hoping to play by the old rules (don't ask me why ) by starting "civilization3.exe". WIll I be prompted for the Conquests CD or the original Civ3 one?

	11-11-2003 06:25									#14
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I have not tried it, but I suspect that you will need the original CD in to use the original exe. The C3C Cd should work for either PTW or C3C exe. Any should allow play of an original save from CivIII.
I use a virtual CD so I mount the one that matches the one I execute.