10-11-2003 01:22									#1
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There's a young girl who goes to my church-like fourteen, maybe fifteen years old-who gets asked for blowjobs by total strangers at least once every school day. It's been going on for months, they've dragged the case up to the frigging superintendent of schools, but they can't stop it. Her parents are thinking of homeschooling her, because they're powerless to stop it. Part of the problem is just the typical difficulties of enforcing conduct among people who enjoy thwarting authority figures, but it's pretty disturbing that the students themselves tolerate this crap, and that any of them find it funny.

I saw this plenty of times back in high school myself. If a girl doesn't act flattered when guys treat her like a whore, she's considered a prudish little goody-two-shoes. Ignoring it comes across as tacit submission. Insults and putdowns will make the guy mad and therefore possibly dangerous if they succeed, and if they fail will be great entertainment for the guy and his creepy friends. Slaps to the face are even worse. Telling the teacher makes her a snotty ***** who can't take a joke. The deck is stacked entirely in the guy's favor here, which is probably why it's done in the first place. Sexual harassment is just bullying for grownups.

But why is the atmosphere in schools so misogynistic that this sort of thing happens frequently, and gets brushed off as part of growing up? Is this just the ideal woman as depicted in teen culture *coughbritneycough*, pretty, wide-eyed, and willing to act flustered and happy when jerkoffs treat her like a chattel? I usually have a hard time swallowing theories about bad societal influences, but the fact that emotional abuse gets regarded as the norm implies that such conduct has at least some support from...whatever is popular. I was never cool so I certainly don't know what's cool now.

I only know it's a relative novelty. Women might have been treated with obscene condescension prior to the feminist movement, but I'm pretty sure harassing them like this would have been utterly shameful back then. They swept rapes under the carpet, yes, but they also had corporal punishment in schools (which I'm inclined to approve of in this kind of situation, BTW. Give the little punks a taste of hickory to teach them civility, that's what I say..).

This was brought to mind by discussions in my abortion thread; do you think excessive teen pregnancy might have something to do with the widespread attitude that self-respect makes girls unpopular?

	10-11-2003 01:27									#2
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They should let her carry a knife or something...

	10-11-2003 01:33									#3
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quote: but I'm pretty sure harassing them like this would have been utterly shameful back then.

depending on the situation, you may be right or wrong on that.

anyway this is pretty disgusting.











































did she say yes?

	10-11-2003 01:33									#4
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If i had actually asked girls for BJs in high school i might have got some

	10-11-2003 01:40									#5
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Mayhap, MRT, but how much of the consent is just being afraid to say no?

And the girl I mentioned does say no, though it's not really relevant, or our business for that matter. The question shouldn't be asked in the first place, that's the problem. It's BS.

	10-11-2003 01:43									#6
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quote: The question shouldn't be asked in the first place, that's the problem. It's BS.

How else could you know the answer if you won't ask?

	10-11-2003 01:54									#8
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I think it's a positive sign myself (despite it being horrible) 'cause it shows how much a threat women who control their own sexuality in whatever way have become. Same with the probably equal mistreatment of young women who do "put out" on their own terms rahter than the boys'. The men are trying to preserve their patriarchal dominance in an increasingly desperate and ultimately futile way- this is not a battle they will be winning.

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what does this have to do with innoculations?

	10-11-2003 03:14									#10
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There is some parts of this story that are missing.

Why are they asking her for blowjobs everyday?

I'm guessing is they know it bugs her.

I've had to endure **** like that in high school. Once people find out there is something that pisses you off, they will continue that activity until you crack. This is especially prevalent in the military. If people find out you don't like being pinched on the ass, they will continue to do it until you snap and kill a few people . It's just human nature I guess. I didn't have too much problem though. I quickly learned not to let people know when things bother you. I just bottle up all my anger and frustration and never release it.

Though I will admit that it is worse now days. In the past no one would ever use language like blow jobs.

But no one believes me when I say the collapse of the american family structure has led to lack of morals in modern american society. This is what happens when a mother works 10 hours a day trying to feed and shelter her children, and their children are raised by MTV.

Completely disgusting behaviour

	10-11-2003 03:15									#11
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I know a guy who simply bugs girls to give him head until they finally give in. Normally they're emotionally fragile or otherwise not stable, and he preys on them. It's called being a sexual predator.

	10-11-2003 03:17									#12
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is it really?

Is he forcing them to give him blowjobs? If the woman can't say no- that is their problem.

	10-11-2003 03:19									#13
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No, i agree...free will and all. And it's not rape, but it is being a sexual predator when you target girls who are vulnerable and get them do things that they would not otherwise do. He usually guilts them or uses other tactics when they originally turn him down.

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quote: Originally posted by Dissident I've had to endure **** like that in high school. Once people find out there is something that pisses you off, they will continue that activity until you crack.

same here. i have a sister who i know is attractive, i don't see her that way, but i can tell she is. when she got into highschool (2 years behind me) everyone would crack jokes about it. most of them i just laughed off, but one kid made remarks inferring incest etc, and i was utterly disgusted. once he saw a reaction out of me, he did it for the rest of highschool (~2 years). the worst part was, near the end he lost all creativity, just saying "hey joe, f*ck your sister?".

is this girl super-hot or something?

	10-11-2003 03:21									#15
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How do you guilt someone into giving you a blowjob?

	10-11-2003 03:22									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident is it really? Is he forcing them to give him blowjobs? If the woman can't say no- that is their problem.

wait, so all i have to do is ball gag them? SWEET CHRIST!

	10-11-2003 03:22									#17
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quote: Originally posted by skywalker How do you guilt someone into giving you a blowjob?

blueballs, peer pressure, prudes.

	10-11-2003 03:49									#18
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quote: Originally posted by orange No, i agree...free will and all. And it's not rape, but it is being a sexual predator when you target girls who are vulnerable and get them do things that they would not otherwise do. He usually guilts them or uses other tactics when they originally turn him down.

It's a slimey thing to do without a doubt. You are preying on someone's vulnerabilities. Definately taking advantage of these girls.

	10-11-2003 03:51									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Uber KruX blueballs, peer pressure, prudes.

that's not really guilting someone though. That is trickery and coercion.

	10-11-2003 04:32									#20
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she should go down and BITE.

	10-11-2003 04:46									#21
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guys that are doing this are weak

Can I ask how old you are Elok?

	10-11-2003 04:51									#22
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quote: There's a young girl who goes to my church-like fourteen, maybe fifteen years old-who gets asked for blowjobs by total strangers at least once every school day.

She have an older brother? Failing that, she just needs to find someone to stick up for her. Doesn't have to be a real boyfriend, just enough of a friend to get these clods to back off.

I used to get teased relentlessly in elementary since I broke down once, and got labelled as 'fragile'. I ended up taking a swing at one jerk, got detention, etc., and they laid off of me.

I once had the bully of our class pick me up, so I accidentally grabbed his chain, which in the process of shaking me, he broke his own chain, and then backed off.

Ever since then I just had to glare at someone and that would be enough.

	10-11-2003 04:53									#23
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Yeah that would be cool if one of the bigger guys stood up for her

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i was the dork too. that stopped when i slammed somebody pissing me off against the wall with one hand around his throat.

she needs to do that. come to school and either kick the bastard in the nuts or have someone do it for her.

hard. tell her it only takes 7psi to crush a testicle.

	10-11-2003 04:58									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident what does this have to do with innoculations?

Yeah, I thot this thread would be about masturbation controls...

	10-11-2003 05:04									#26
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quote: hard. tell her it only takes 7psi to crush a testicle

I really didn't want to know that.

	10-11-2003 05:04									#27
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i understand there are places which sell chastity belts. somethign to do with the bdsm scene.

pretty sure that could stop masturbation. then again, i think anything that causes excessive pain would too...

	10-11-2003 05:10									#28
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there are indeed places that still sell chastity belts

there are alot of problems with keeping them clean, people get chaffed and infections, etc

gross

i would think that not being able to trust someone it would be better to move on instead of trying to make them wear a chastity belt

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interesting school you got to

	10-11-2003 07:57									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Buck Birdseed I think it's a positive sign myself (despite it being horrible) 'cause it shows how much a threat women who control their own sexuality in whatever way have become. Same with the probably equal mistreatment of young women who do "put out" on their own terms rahter than the boys'. The men are trying to preserve their patriarchal dominance in an increasingly desperate and ultimately futile way- this is not a battle they will be winning.

Yea, I'm sure that these illiterate American High School Punks are conspiring to preserve a male dominance that none of them has ever experienced directly. They'd rather be doing other things, but when the Patriarchy calls you had better snap to it, or they take your balls. Are you trying to get an A- (your male, so that straight A is out) in your Womyn's Studies class?