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Urban Ranger is offline Urban Ranger
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Humans aren't rational creatures so it is really sensible to use these as arguments for beliefs?


Is that your gut feeling, or do you have any logical arguments for it?

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It's important to have a grasp of both logical and intuitive means of understanding your world. Too much logic and you are a nerd who doesn't really get people, including yourself often enough. Too much squishy intuitiveness and you are a Green party member who is against nuclear power because you are against global warming, and you wonder why no one votes for the Greens.

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You know what??

This thread's topic sounds too much like post-modernist nonsense.


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Too much squishy intuitiveness and you are a Green party member who is against nuclear power because you are against global warming, and you wonder why no one votes for the Greens.


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Is that your gut feeling, or do you have any logical arguments for it?


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"yeah, like continue the existence of the species when it's abundantly clear the earth doesn't deserve our treatment of it."

This in itself is an irrational idea: why would the earth care if we ruin its ecosystem or not? It's just rock and magma, with some organic matter that happens to be on top. The idea that we are unworthy of nature is totally and completely irrational.

Indeed, irrationality is underrated because it is so misunderstood. It is not mere non-sequiters: rather it is the realization of the small miracles of life. The ability to have coffee in the morning: how did you get to this cup of coffee from your childhood? An amazing sequence of events had to occurr for you to enjoy the moment you have right now.

Understanding irrationality and the complete delusion is the key to enjoying life.

For me, anyway.

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...well I'm not really enjoying this coffee, it's from a vending machine Although it gives me caffeine

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I hope not, they are the only good qualities I have.

humans aren't rational? Well I guess I'm not human. Although I always do feel kind of alien sometimes. sometimes it seems I have nothing in common with irrational illogical normal people.

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I know that feeling well. Humans are so strange and primitive...

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In my opinion, rationality and logic do not exist.

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You can always spot an arts student...

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Indeed, irrationality is underrated because it is so misunderstood.


I don't think that's the case. Rather, we didn't become civilised by being irrational.

 
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