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Jul 2002
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Bent double, like old beggars under sacks,
Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge,
Till on the haunting flares we turned our backs
And towards our distant rest began to trudge.
Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots
But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame; all blind;
Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots
Of disappointed shells that dropped behind.

GAS! Gas! Quick, boys!-- An ecstasy of fumbling,
Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time;
But someone still was yelling out and stumbling
And floundering like a man in fire or lime.--
Dim, through the misty panes and thick green light
As under a green sea, I saw him drowning.

In all my dreams, before my helpless sight,
He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning.

If in some smothering dreams you too could pace
Behind the wagon that we flung him in,
And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,
His hanging face, like a devil's sick of sin;
If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs,
Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud
Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,--
My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est
Pro patria mori.

(Owen, 1918)

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"Happy" Remembrance Day.

I think Rummy & Dubya would do well to read some Owen or Sassoon.

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Aug 2003
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at the risk of throwing a cinder bomb...

technically, what rummy and bush were trying to prevent was the use of those those chemical weapons in iraq that they could deploy in less than forty minutes...

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Dec 1999
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I love that poem. Did you know that Owen died a day or two before Armistace day?
That reminds me, check out http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...us/wwi_veterans

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http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0...1757796,00.html

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Dec 1999
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I know what 'Pro Patria Mori' means, but what does 'Dulce et Decorum est' mean?

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Aug 2001
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I know what 'Pro Patria Mori' means, but what does 'Dulce et Decorum est' mean?


It is sweet and right/proper/honourable (depending which google result you go by )

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Oct 2002
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Sweet and proper,

So the statement would be:

"It is sweet and proper to die for one's country."

Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori.

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Great poem, right time.

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