12-11-2003 20:16									#1
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Mongoose201, now that 1BC is partially back up, posted the following:

quote: Another quick note for all teams. The ''fortify all'' exploit is just that, and exploit. And should not be employed by any team at any time. Thanks

Now I know he means it in reference to what GWT has been doing with a land-based fortify all. That said, it would seem that if what GWT has done with the fortify all is an "exploit" and Mongoose has made the ruling that any use of the fortify all to exploit the timing of the fortification is an exploit and should not be used.... then we probably shouldn't use the fortify all "trick" regarding naval units, should we?

Just thought that, given Mongoose's post, we should rehash this.

	12-11-2003 20:59									#2
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agreed. If we want to see 3 tiles we should move 2 with our galleys then fortify on the last move.

	12-11-2003 21:06									#3
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finally, a ruling on this!

btw, during the chat with the Firaxis and Breakaway staff on Nov. 4 I asked if the 3 tile view on ships was a bug, and it was not. That's a relief. That still, however, does not justify the fort all.

	12-11-2003 22:12									#4
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Agreed, let's stop using 'fortify all' altogether.

	13-11-2003 00:38									#5
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Agreed. However, we can use the fort all command if all units have movement points left.

	13-11-2003 01:36									#6
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quote: Originally posted by BigFree Agreed. However, we can use the fort all command if all units have movement points left.

Of course. I think only the potentially exploitive uses that are being ruled out.

	13-11-2003 03:03									#7
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Agreed

	13-11-2003 19:41									#8
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quote: btw, during the chat with the Firaxis and Breakaway staff on Nov. 4 I asked if the 3 tile view on ships was a bug, and it was not. That's a relief. That still, however, does not justify the fort all.

	13-11-2003 23:01									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Master Zen btw, during the chat with the Firaxis and Breakaway staff on Nov. 4 I asked if the 3 tile view on ships was a bug, and it was not.

I knew it was a feature MZ.

	15-11-2003 09:20									#10
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Finally

	15-11-2003 11:41									#11
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So is it considered an exploit now or a legal move?

	15-11-2003 23:21									#12
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an exploit

	16-11-2003 07:42									#13
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Ah crud. I maintain there is nothing wrong with it at all, but if that's the POV of mongoose - that is how it is.