13-11-2003 02:20									#1
	SP effects Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

I'm doing ICS and have got HGP. When I create a new base without sending a scout to go with it, sometimes it riots the next turn. Why? I thought HGP gives you a talent so no matter how many bases I have the first citizen shouldn't be a drone should it?

	13-11-2003 04:25									#2
	... and you thought that Drones were boring enough Remove this text

There are Drones, and there are SuperDrones.

Beyond a certain bureaucracy point, you get some SuperDrones instead of regular ones, just like you get some Drones instead of workers at earlier bureaucracy threshholds. Although Cops and Facs still have the same effects on them, a SuperD takes twice as much Elvis to cheer up, and the HGP is also dilulted in its effect (sometimes you will also get unanticipated drone problems when a base's population goes up, even if it seemed that you had the necessary extra drone control at the lower level).

Quite often the game will incorrectly show drones in the Primary Base display when the actual situation is not so bad - use the Psych Sub-Display or the F4 version to get the true scoop.

	13-11-2003 05:57									#3
	Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

Drone-reducing facilities and police will quell superdrones as if they were normal drones, but talent-creating facilities and psych treat them as one step unhappier than drones.

	13-11-2003 06:13									#4
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All of which is a way of saying that there's no social problems that a judicious application of jackbooted thugs can't take care of.

I share your frustration with the limits of psych versus police as this game is implemented. This lovely feature pretty much limits the long-term usefulness of Free Market, unless you have a LOT of trading partners.

	14-11-2003 00:21									#5
	Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

CEO, I think it isn't that bad if you heavily rely on energy crawlers. But I think in any ICS game you'll come to a point where the efficiency from green gives you more energy than the FM economy. And you have less penalties - and as a Morgan player I'd rather drop FM than wealth.