16-11-2003 13:04									#1
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I was halfway to the corner of 8th and Dauphin (I live at 6th and Dauphin) only a few minutes ago right by an old warehouse. There was a number of people at the corner (there's a club right there). and some dude there suddenly shouted, 'yo B, you got my gun?!' and then someone, only 30 feet from me just opened fire. Five shots.

god damn. why in god's ****ing name do i got to live like this? this aint ****ing right! this aint how human beings are supposed to live, ducking strays!

	16-11-2003 13:09									#2
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Jesus, that's terrible.

Personally, I'm living in Iowa right now, and I can't WAIT to get to the city. I'd rather live in danger than die from boredom.

	16-11-2003 13:13									#3
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this **** happens every saturday night, just usually, I get past the club by 2:30 am when people start leaving it so I'm safe but today, i missed the first bus coming back from my work (we were understaffed and i had to do several jobs so we were 15 minutes late in closing), so i was walking home just in time to see them idiots start shooting each other. 30 feet away at the most. if i was walking a little faster and had reached the corner then, i could easily have been shot. ****ed up ****.

	16-11-2003 13:20									#4
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It's obvious you need to move to the countryside to plant the cows and chickens or what have you.

	16-11-2003 13:27									#5
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Keep your head down.
Stay in college.
Study hard.
Get out and make something of yourself.
Live wherever you want.

It's a pretty straightforward plan. Good luck with it.

	16-11-2003 13:34									#6
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Well, much of the city isn't like this. Even Philadelphia has nicer neighborhoods.

Anyway, if it's so predictable, the cops should be all over this kind of stuff.

	16-11-2003 13:37									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer I was halfway to the corner of 8th and Dauphin (I live at 6th and Dauphin) only a few minutes ago right by an old warehouse. There was a number of people at the corner (there's a club right there). and some dude there suddenly shouted, 'yo B, you got my gun?!' and then someone, only 30 feet from me just opened fire. Five shots. god damn. why in god's ****ing name do i got to live like this? this aint ****ing right! this aint how human beings are supposed to live, ducking strays!

Come to Logan. I can assure you that has NEVER happend here.
Except for that nasty murder of the baby. Bah.

	16-11-2003 13:56									#8
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I suggest getting away from the inner city as fast as possible. Philly is a tough city as well. The inner city in Vegas isn't that bad. Mostly drugs, not much guns. Most gun violence only kills little girls. I swear little mexian girls must be magnets for bullets. They seem to be the only ones killed by gang violence . But other than that, the only people killed in my city, are usually the intended target. And they did something to warrant that death (by gang warfare rules of course). Oh, we have the usual domestic killing as well. It doesn't pay to marry men who can be violent.

	16-11-2003 15:47									#9
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Do you secretly live in Mogadishu Speer or have I just forgotten how mindlessly violent American cities can be after years of living in Canada/UK?

	16-11-2003 15:53									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer I was halfway to the corner of 8th and Dauphin (I live at 6th and Dauphin) only a few minutes ago right by an old warehouse. There was a number of people at the corner (there's a club right there). and some dude there suddenly shouted, 'yo B, you got my gun?!' and then someone, only 30 feet from me just opened fire. Five shots. god damn. why in god's ****ing name do i got to live like this? this aint ****ing right! this aint how human beings are supposed to live, ducking strays!

Yes, but in your infamous trip to the suburbs you claimed you hated all those people because they didn't have to put up with that sort of crap. Get consistent, kid.

	16-11-2003 15:54									#11
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he confused hate with jealousy

	16-11-2003 16:06									#12
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people are so stupid. did anyone get hurt Al?

	16-11-2003 18:29									#13
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Must get sickening after a while. Come here! Be the fourth Northamptonian!!!

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Northampton Capital of ?? well .. err .. those big radio masts as you make your way down the M1 .. thats about the sum of my knowledge

Its a good question though Albert .. how do some people get into lives that lead them to consider pulling a gun in such a way .. its really sad. I think Inner city kids should be all sent to live in small villages for a few years, to calm them down, and who knows, even get a reasonable education ?? may actually help them.

	16-11-2003 18:52									#15
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AS, You got shot at just like that? Uh.. You need to get out of there ASAP. You deserve better than that.

.. no wait, they were shooting each other? well anyway, that's almost as bad because you were so close.. I couldn't imagine living in area like that. Get out the first good chance you get.

	16-11-2003 19:01									#16
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quote: Northampton Capital of ?? well .. err .. those big radio masts as you make your way down the M1 .. thats about the sum of my knowledge

Try getting past junction 15 or 15a on a Friday evening

	16-11-2003 19:37									#17
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M1 + Friday = Almost as much hell as poor old Al seems to have experienced .. although, saying that, I'll hedge my bets with the M1 Its just Angry old grannies in their 4x4's you want to watch out for .

	16-11-2003 19:48									#18
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I've never actually been into Northampton although I have been past it many a time. Perhaps I will have to visit at some point to see...erm...to go visit the world famous...err..erm...I'll just go to Newport Pagnell services as per usual then

	16-11-2003 19:52									#19
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I live in a city of only 50,000 and in some places you know not to go or to go quickly through. The apartment complex I used to live in is in an area called apartment city, because of all the apartments there. We had shootings on a regular basis there for a while as well, until the police moved in. Literally. They set up a sub station there. Some even moved into apartments in the area. I went to the police station one time to pay a ticket and i saw a list of warrents outstanding and the majority lived on or near my street. Anyway, i live in quiet area now, with trees and only 10 minutes away from the old neighborhood.

	16-11-2003 19:55									#20
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You've got trees? Wow?

	16-11-2003 20:32									#21
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You live in Philly and you're surprised by this?

Either move away, or shut up and deal with it. You ain't the 1st person to have bullets shot off around them.

	16-11-2003 20:36									#22
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Theben, I think that's not fair comment. AS is going to college there after all and working at the same time. IMO he's now in a place where he needs to be, to be able to get out eventually and succeed.

Other option would be transferring to other college, but I don't know if that's possibility. Or move to another area, but that's money question too...

	16-11-2003 20:36									#23
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You need one of Pekka's SuzyQ's, AS, or move somewhere else.

	16-11-2003 20:39									#24
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UR, that's correct.

	16-11-2003 20:44									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka Theben, I think that's not fair comment. AS is going to college there after all and working at the same time. IMO he's now in a place where he needs to be, to be able to get out eventually and succeed. Other option would be transferring to other college, but I don't know if that's possibility. Or move to another area, but that's money question too...

Then he needs to transfer somewhere else. I guess you don't know just how violent american cities can be. Any other U.S. city he goes to will have it's share of violence.

quote: I think Inner city kids should be all sent to live in small villages for a few years, to calm them down, and who knows, even get a reasonable education ?? may actually help them.

They've tried this. Sending gang kids from cities into the deep south or other more rural areas (usually to live with other family). They just bring their gang ties with them and set up shop.

	16-11-2003 20:46									#26
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Don't start Pekka off UR

	16-11-2003 20:52									#27
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Theben, I don't have first hand experience of violence in US, I've been fortunate enought to be left alone, but that wasn't my point. It was, that AS might not be able to transfer.. I don't know. Or maybe he is. If he was personally targeted by someone and would know the time will come, then I think the only real option is to get the hell out no matter what. But now, it's not simple, IMO if he don't have anything else waiting for him or possible for him to grab outside Philly.. would it be smart? After all, he could get shot elsewhere too. Difficult question.. but I agree, as soon as possible, he should get out of that place.

	16-11-2003 20:59									#28
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Probably, but I wouldn't be surprised if part of the lifestyle he desires is putting himself in/near these situations.

	16-11-2003 22:42									#29
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congratulations, Albert.

	16-11-2003 22:55									#30
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quote: Originally posted by The Viceroy Northampton Capital of ?? well .. err .. those big radio masts as you make your way down the M1 .. thats about the sum of my knowledge

They also brew Carlberg here. However pints of Export still cost the same