17-11-2003 05:19									#1
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The outcome of the game seems almost predetermined, but the voice of the people needs to be heard still.

It is my belief that the last City Planner poll still holds.
In summary, the last poll decided that we would construct many more diplomats, a few more alpine troops, a few more engineers, and many more offensive units (Cannon/Calvary) in cities that had barracks. In addition, we still need some infrastructure, but mainly in the cities we have recently taken, and mainly to get them celebrating.

Essentially we have enough Alpine Troops by the number that were requested in the last poll (we have 14).

Essentially we have enough Engineers from the last poll (requested 90, we have 86).

Therefore, my recommendations are simple...that we continue to produce diplomats to catch up with the number of engineers we have, and in all other celebrating cities to develop offensive units (after barracks if necessary). The only other requirement is infrastructure in those cities that still require it.

If any have any further to add, please state your intentions now. I will try to incorporate any reasonable recommendations into my city planner report. You have three days to post your opinions on what more we need.

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	17-11-2003 07:07									#2
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I built many, many diplomats, it's just that they keep dying while sabotaging citywalls and improvements.

I'd also like to get our calvary up to par with the cannons.

I don't think we will have as much of a need to use diplomats, since most of the Greek cities have much fewer units than the formerly Fundy Germans. I'm not going to see a garrison of six units, like I saw many times in Germany.

	17-11-2003 07:13									#3
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I hope the Foreign Minister will poll on whether to keep going against the Germans first, or switch to bringing down the Greeks first, or taking them both down simultaneously.

btw, if you think the cities will have less units in them, why does that mean we will need less diplomats? I would think less units will mean more improvements, and thus we will need MORE diplomats, to take down the walls (and we will need less offensive units).

	17-11-2003 11:24									#4
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I would run at the city, Prussian that I am, without knocking down the walls if they have a wimpy garrison.

	17-11-2003 20:33									#5
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At this point it doesn't really matter what we build or research... the game should be done in another dozen turns, either way.

I won't be making a science poll, just because the circumstances haven't changed, and our science goals should be unchanged. Whether we research at all is another question (personally I feel that we needn't bother).

	17-11-2003 22:35									#6
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Huge amounts of dips and cannons would increase our attackspeed.

	17-11-2003 22:58									#7
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Diplomats and cannons are our winning combination.
No more cavalry. Cavalry is toooooo expensive.

But I would like to see one last attempt at bribing.

I have posted a poll on that.

	17-11-2003 23:54									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi I would run at the city, Prussian that I am, without knocking down the walls if they have a wimpy garrison.

It seems both our Minister of War and our Foreign Minister agree that we need more diplomats to bring down the walls and while our Science Minister seems indifferent, I too would like us to continue building Dips to bring down the walls of any city. While you are correct that we don't "need" to, it would make the attack easier, and leave us more offensive units to take more enemy cities, perhaps finishing the game faster, which at this point, would be merciful.

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	18-11-2003 01:09									#9
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Agreed.

Still lots of cities that need to be taken down at 30.

STYOM:

What about espionage? Should we wait for the Greeks to research Communism, or should we forge ahead? That's something we ought to poll on.

And I like ljcvetko's suggestion of trading communism to entice the Greeks and Germans from democracy.

	18-11-2003 03:21									#10
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Yes, give them commie, they are building units fast anyway so it shouldnt matter to much in their unitcount.