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Albert Speer
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Puerile Polemic
Mar 1999
time: 00:32
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exactly Ramo... thats all we ever hear about is how evil Columbus was... so the original point of this thread makes no ****ing sense because Columbus is vilified by society. if Columbus' story is an American myth than Columbus must have been great to the indians
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Albert Speer
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Puerile Polemic
Mar 1999
time: 00:32
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what planet are you from, centrifuge? don't you know high school textbooks have nothing but white male bashing. its sad really cause they weren't all that bad.
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centrifuge
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Albert, you're killing me!!!!
Have you ever read a high school history textbook???
They tend to be very one-sided...
...but that is getting off topic, I'm talking specifically about Columbus. If you can find an american high school history textbook, that bashes Columbus in any sense, I'll give some sort of creedence to your obnoxious attitude toward me and my posts.
Edit: I'm debating history not grammar 
Last edited by centrifuge on 18-11-2003 at 21:28
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Ramo
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Austin, Texas, USA
Oct 1999
time: 23:32
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quote:
exactly Ramo... thats all we ever hear about is how evil Columbus was... so the original point of this thread makes no ****ing sense because Columbus is vilified by society. if Columbus' story is an American myth than Columbus must have been great to the indians |
1. You asserted that it wasn't true Columbus slaughtered Amerindians. Which is false.
2. I never heard of the specific details of Columbus' atrocities in any class (and evidently you haven't either). What I learned about Columbus in school was some bullshit about the Nina, the Pinta, and the Santa Maria (and apparantly you've only learned something equally insubstantial with the "in Dios" thing). And maybe some inspecific factoid about his discovery eventually leading to ethnic cleansing.
I didn't learn in school, for instance, about how Columbus, in a fanatic search for gold, decided to force an entire Haitian province to mine gold, killing those who failed to come up with the required amount. Except that there wasn't very much gold there (except for a little bit of gold dust in the streams), so the natives there were totally massacred.
And Columbus is not necessarily vilified in society. Columbus Day is a national holiday, mind you. It's just a handful of PC lefitsts who raise any objections to that sort of thing.
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mrmitchell
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"I celebrated thanksgiving the traditional way. I invited all my neighbors over for a huge feast. Then I killed them and took their land."
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Las Vegas, Nevada
Feb 2000
time: 21:32
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quote:
Originally posted by Ramo
1. You asserted that it wasn't true Columbus slaughtered Amerindians. Which is false.
2. I never heard of the specific details of Columbus' atrocities in any class (and evidently you haven't either). What I learned about Columbus in school was some bullshit about the Nina, the Pinta, and the Santa Maria (and apparantly you've only learned something equally insubstantial with the "in Dios" thing). And maybe some inspecific factoid about his discovery eventually leading to ethnic cleansing.
I didn't learn in school, for instance, about how Columbus, in a fanatic search for gold, decided to force an entire Haitian province to mine gold, killing those who failed to come up with the required amount. Except that there wasn't very much gold there (except for a little bit of gold dust in the streams), so the natives there were totally massacred.
And Columbus is not necessarily vilified in society. Columbus Day is a national holiday, mind you. It's just a handful of PC lefitsts who raise any objections to that sort of thing. |
Columbus Day is not a holiday.
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centrifuge
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Of course, I agree.
George was the first president as we know it, under the current constitution.
Hanson was the first president under the articles of confederation.
People have a tendency to believe that immediately after the revolution, Washington was elected president. This was not the case, first the country had to go through a process of trial and error.
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MrFun
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of Iowa
Nov 2000
time: 23:32
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quote:
Originally posted by Ramo
1. You asserted that it wasn't true Columbus slaughtered Amerindians. Which is false.
2. I never heard of the specific details of Columbus' atrocities in any class (and evidently you haven't either). What I learned about Columbus in school was some bullshit about the Nina, the Pinta, and the Santa Maria (and apparantly you've only learned something equally insubstantial with the "in Dios" thing). And maybe some inspecific factoid about his discovery eventually leading to ethnic cleansing.
I didn't learn in school, for instance, about how Columbus, in a fanatic search for gold, decided to force an entire Haitian province to mine gold, killing those who failed to come up with the required amount. Except that there wasn't very much gold there (except for a little bit of gold dust in the streams), so the natives there were totally massacred.
And Columbus is not necessarily vilified in society. Columbus Day is a national holiday, mind you. It's just a handful of PC lefitsts who raise any objections to that sort of thing. |
But Ramo, according to adherents of anachronistic historiography, we are villifying Columbus by looking at such facts, such as Columbus enslaving the population of Hispaniola in gold mining.
To realize that atrocities were committed by all ethnic and racial groups is not to villify white people as one-dimensional villains.
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Albert Speer
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Puerile Polemic
Mar 1999
time: 00:32
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i'm with sloww
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