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That all of the people from Fargo talk the way that they did in the movie.
Columbus was the 1st to discover America...and we never hear anything about the depopulation of the West Indies.
Cowboys = good, Indians = evil savages
The 1st Prsident of the US was technically not George Washington... when Maryland ratified the Articles of Confederation in 1781, John Hanson signed the document for Maryland and was then elected "President of the United States in Congress Assembled" Even George Washington acknowledged him as the first president.
A lot of the well known outlaws and heroes of the Wild West were simply products of the media, whose stories were nowhere near as exciting as what was published.
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George Washington's Cherry tree.
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10069
Nov 2002
time: 05:32
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Afghanistan had nothing to do with oil - it was about sharing democracy.
McCarthyism was about Paul being dead.
Area 51 was a storage facility, right next to area 52.
Crop circles are created by bovines gone wild.
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Albert Speer
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Puerile Polemic
Mar 1999
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MrFun:
nah i'm pretty sure the first year in America saw good relations between the pilgrims and the indians. it was the ensueing years that saw both sides raiding each other.
Fuge:
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Columbus was the 1st to discover America...and we never hear anything about the depopulation of the West Indies. |
huh? what are you talking about? all we ever here about is how Columbus slaughtered Indians, which apparently, is not even true. Columbus even had a fondness for the Indians, a word he derived not from India (why would he ever call them Indians when he was heading for China but on the latitude for Japan) but from the Spanish word 'in Dios' or in (with) God. Though godless pagans, Columbus seems to have been one of the first europeans to see the Indians in a very european light of Edenistic noble savages.
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Cowboys = good, Indians = evil savages |
what in god's name are you talking about? I hate how the god damn liberals constantly make it seem like everybody has this white man is always right attitude. no one ****ing thinks that.
it's been drilled a million and one times in our heads in school, the media, and the movie industry, that the US Cavalry slaughtered Indians left and right and forced them from their homes ever since Jackson and the Trail of Tears.
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The 1st Prsident of the US was technically not George Washington... when Maryland ratified the Articles of Confederation in 1781, John Hanson signed the document for Maryland and was then elected "President of the United States in Congress Assembled" Even George Washington acknowledged him as the first president. |
interesting but judging from the other bullshit you mentioned, i take this 'fact' with a grain of salt.
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Albert Speer
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Puerile Polemic
Mar 1999
time: 00:32
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Afghanistan had nothing to do with oil - it was about sharing democracy. |
there's no oil in Afghanistan except flowing through that pipeline from one of the -Stan nations do the north into Pakistan.
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Mar 1999
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Obviously this is one of MrFun's "make me feel bad for being an American" threads, so I think he's looking for that "false history" category. Like this:
It is true that Cornelius Vanderbilt bankrupted many individual members of the NY City and State governments - that's the myth, one of those used to support the, imo, false notion of "robber barons." However, it is little noted and even less reported how he bankrupted these fine gentlemen, quivering as they were at the mercy of this predatory baron of profit:
The City Council shorted Vanderbilts stock, then immediately passed a law to the severe detriment of his railroad. Vanderbilt, seeing that these men were purposely attempting to bankrupt him, furiously purchased every block of share that he could, causing the price to rise, thereby blowing away the bastards who tried to get him. As he damned well should have.
Then the State Legislature got into the act, doing the exact same thing. Vanderbilt bankrupted them. As he damned well should have.
http://voteview.uh.edu/vanderb2.htm
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1. First Stock Corner: Dec. 1862 Harlem directors applied for permission to lay rails down Broadway south of Union Square to the Battery. (This would have been a horse car line.) The line was approved by the City government in April 1863. Daniel Drew, a director of the NY&H then conspired with City officials to withdraw their approval in a scheme to sell the NY&H stock short. Vanderbilt learned of the scheme and began to purchase all the stock that came on the market and all the short sales. By August 1863 the stock hit $179 and Vanderbilt and his group controlled it all – the entire stock capitalization of the company, $4,217,100. The politicians then reversed their reversal and re-approved the extension of Harlem down Broadway.
2. Second Stock Corner: Because of legal entanglements the NY&H needed a bill passed by the NY State Legislature to given the NY&H corporation the authority to do the construction. The Bill was introduced early in 1864. Once again Daniel Drew and others hatched a short selling scheme on the NY&H stock. They conspired with state legislators to defeat the bill to drive down the price of the stock. And, once again, Vanderbilt and his group – who were short of cash – pooled their resources and began buying up the NY&H stock. By the end of April, 1864 the stock hit $235 and Vanderbilt and his group had bought the equivalent of the entire capitalization and some 27,000 shares besides. Scores of legislators were financially ruined. |
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10069
Nov 2002
time: 05:32
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Originally posted by Buck Birdseed
...which of course doesn't matter for whether slaughtering them was right or not.
But yeah, I hate rosseau-noble-savage racism as much as anyone. I think it's a left-winger way of keeping the (in this case) red man down... Let them form their own identity for gossakes. |
I don't think we left enough of them alive to have a cultural identity - what's left now is more like an AA meeting. Oh well, at least they get their individualism; no one says that all Native Americans look alike.
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17-11-2003 19:43
thats the way it will always be
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near etowah, i believe. don't remember the river, but the fact remains. georgians are evolved, alabamans are not.
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