18-11-2003 02:58									#1
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Apparently Conquests does come with 32 civs. There are eight completely new Epic leaderhead sets and Pedia icons, etc.

I assume Charles is the leader of Austria but what are Austria's stats and UU supposed to be?

This wasn't put in the Creation forum because it isn't about creating anything, its about activating the eight civ.

	18-11-2003 03:01									#2
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The civ is in one conquest you can get all the stats out from it.

However there is a hardocded limit that prevents the game from having more than 32 civs including barbarians, so you can't add Austria to the game without rremoving any other civ.

	18-11-2003 03:03									#3
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I think that in some chat Firaxis and BA planed them to be Militaristic and Industrial (but that was before they introduced 2 new traits).

Personally I think that they wit well.

Their UU is Hussar (you can see it in Napoleon scenario).

Don't kniow about planed stats for them (I doubt that scenarios specific stats from Napoleon scenario matter).

	18-11-2003 03:24									#4
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Here is a pic of their stats in the MP version of the Napoleonic scenario:



Here is their UU the Hussar (6.4.2)

	18-11-2003 03:34									#5
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Of course in the scenario cavalry are 90 shields and 5.2.2 unlike the cavalry in the normal game of 80 shields and 6.3.3.

So what the Hussar should be in a "normal" game of civ3 is open to debate.

	18-11-2003 03:37									#6
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I think that in some chat Firaxis and BA mentioned 7.3.3 stats, but I'm not sure.

	18-11-2003 03:47									#7
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7.3.3 sounds good. What do you think about the shields? 85 or 90 shields?

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just 80

	18-11-2003 06:30									#9
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It has not been as easy as I thought it would be to add Austria to the game. I have done it however. I based the Austrian civ on the Napoleon conquest. There are some differences such as the leader is Charles V and I set the Hussar to 7.3.3 80 shields.

In order to have Austria as a civ you also need to edit PediaIcons.txt.

I noticed in the PediaIcons.txt that under the neutral victory there is an error in the #RACE_BYZANTINES section. Isabelle is the leader head when it should be Theodora. Change the following line: art\leaderheads\x_isabell victory neutral.pcx to art\leaderheads\X2_Theodora advisor.pcx

Austria is also not included in this file so any reference in the civlopedia shows a question mark unless the following lines are added:

#RACE_AUSTRIA
art\leaderheads\x2_Charles_V victory neutral.pcx
art\advisors\x2_Charles_V advisor.pcx

#HAPPY_RACE_AUSTRIA
art\leaderheads\x2_Charles_V victory happy lg.pcx

#SHAPP_RACE_AUSTRIA
art\leaderheads\x2_Charles_V victory happy sm.pcx

#LKISS_RACE_AUSTRIA
art\leaderheads\x2_Charles_V victory kiss lg.pcx

#SKISS_RACE_AUSTRIA
art\leaderheads\x2_Charles_V victory kiss sm.pcx

#ANGRY_RACE_AUSTRIA
art\leaderheads\x2_Charles_V victory angry sm.pcx

#ILOVE_RACE_AUSTRIA
art\leaderheads\x2_Charles_V victory heart sm.pcx

#LOVED_RACE_AUSTRIA
art\leaderheads\x2_Charles_V victory heart tiny.pcx

#LHURT_RACE_AUSTRIA
art\leaderheads\x2_Charles_V victory beatup lg.pcx

#HURTN_RACE_AUSTRIA
art\leaderheads\x2_Charles_V victory beatup sm.pcx

#ICON_RACE_AUSTRIA
art\civilopedia\icons\races\x2_Charles_V civpedia lg.pcx
art\civilopedia\icons\races\x2_Charles_V civpedia sm.pcx

I am going to attach a new conquests.biq that only includes the new civs including Austria. I tried to make sure there are no errors in what units each civ can get but this has not been fully tested by me. I'm hoping someone can help out here. Backup your original conquests.biq before installing this one.

Hopefully you can use this in our PBEM GenghisFarb but I would want further testing so we don't error out down the road.

	18-11-2003 06:35									#10
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Here is the modified conquests.biq which includes the following civs:

Sumerians
Incas
Mayas
Hittites
Austrians
Portugal
Netherlands
Byzantines

Had to zip it to post here.

Attachment: conquests.zip
This has been downloaded 8 time(s).

	18-11-2003 19:07									#11
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quote: Originally posted by SirOsis Here is the modified conquests.biq which includes the following civs: Sumerians Incas Mayas Hittites Austrians Portugal Netherlands Byzantines Had to zip it to post here.

I took the liberty to improve your mod, by adding Austrian King unit, civilopedia entry and fixing some bugs (upgrade path for Hussar, making Hussar targetable with stealth attack, custom map removed, UU selection repaired, etc).

Only thing left to do is choosing proper primary and secondary color for Austrians (since grey won't work, because it's reserved for barbarians).

	18-11-2003 20:23									#12
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Excellent. Thanks for fixing it. This was my first attempt at using the editor. I've noticed that it defaults to red for the color when playing Austria.

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quote: I've noticed that it defaults to red for the color when playing Austria.

Yes, that's because barbarians took grey and red is next on the list.

	19-11-2003 00:51									#14
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FYI: The original design for Austria, had their primary color as "light blue" and alternate as a "medium gray".

The stats for the Hussar would probably have been 7-3-3 (replaces the 6-3-3 Cavalry), and costing 80.

	19-11-2003 04:26									#15
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Thanks a lot Ckibler!

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Did I got colors right?

Attachment: austria.jpg
This has been downloaded 309 time(s).

	19-11-2003 18:53									#17
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quote: Originally posted by player1 Did I got colors right?

They look good to me. I can't really say with certainty anymore which "exact" colors they would have been, though.

	19-11-2003 20:06									#18
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How did you add Austria without removing one of the other civs? I was under the impression that this was impossible, due to the fact that the game is hard-coded to only allow 31 civs and the barbarians...

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I removed all the civs except the ones added in Conquests. So in this mod there are only 8 civs to choose from.

It's true if you want 31 civs including Austria you will need to remove 1. It is not too difficult to remove a civ. It is far more difficult to add Austria. Use this mod as a template if you want to add Austria and have 31 civs.

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Here is the version with right colors.

Attachment: c3c_civs_only.zip
This has been downloaded 23 time(s).

	20-11-2003 11:29									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Smellincoffee How did you add Austria without removing one of the other civs? I was under the impression that this was impossible, due to the fact that the game is hard-coded to only allow 31 civs and the barbarians...

I find it easier to put Austria in the game by renaming one of the existing civs and modify it accordingly.

Thank you for the biqs, SirOsis and player1.

	20-11-2003 12:55									#22
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Can somebody give me a step-by-step guidance on how to remove a civ and add the Austrians? I haven't worked with the Editor yet.

Any help appreciated.

(I assume that way I could also add the Minoans -or whatever they were called- from an old Game of the Month at CivFanatics)

	20-11-2003 13:07									#23
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I don't think I could give you good step, by step description.

I think that the best way to start would be to "remove a civ" by replacing its stats with new one you like (changing traits and all that matter).

At the end you need to add UU and King units (no need to remove old ones for replaced civ).

	20-11-2003 13:26									#24
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I opened 2 editors and copied and pasted Austria in while looking at the Napoleon scenario. City names, leaders etc.

	20-11-2003 21:21									#25
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In my game, I'm planning to rename the Zulu and start from there. I already have the superficial stuff done- city names, color- the stuff you do in the editor- I just didn't know how to edit the Pediaicons file or link to the leaderhead.

	21-11-2003 00:22									#26
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Tip:
In zip I posted there is already finished pediaicons file.
Just donwload it and no problems.

	27-11-2003 05:18									#27
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delete

	27-11-2003 20:19									#28
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How would one go about setting the leaderhead for Austria right, in deleting another civ and inserting Austria, I mean?

	28-11-2003 02:16									#29
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Edit the PediaIcons file with the additions I mention above.