18-11-2003 06:45									#1
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dont dead-lift, squat, and do ab excercises all in the same work out. It makes it impossible to walk

	16-12-2003 21:59									#2
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Squat and deadlift are very taxing. To ensure that you have optimal energy to execute, you should always do them on seperate days.

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	16-12-2003 22:05									#4
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Huh? Squat? Deadlift?

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Actually I always squat and deadlift on the same day. Thats what you have to do in competition so its worthwhile to train that way (at least some of the time) Also, they use very similar muscle groups so it's easy to overtrain if you do multiple leg and back days in a week. In one week I train (day 1) heavy squat -light DL and (day 4) light squat-heavy DL.

	17-12-2003 00:16									#6
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Squat and DLing freak me out. I'm tall and its all too easy to screw up my lower back muscles. I'll have a crack if I'm in the gym but I do most of my workout at home. Any suggestions for a home workout?

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quote: Originally posted by Snotty Squat and DLing freak me out. I'm tall and its all too easy to screw up my lower back muscles. I'll have a crack if I'm in the gym but I do most of my workout at home. Any suggestions for a home workout?

Have a lot of sex.

Spec.

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I was a little bit hasty to use the word "always" in my last post. I should have asked you your age because it does make a difference to what level of workout intensity a person can handle. I'm in my mid 30's. I'm not trying to compete, but I am trying to build mass so I go heavy every day. I don't work a body part more than once a week except abs. I do Squats & Stiff Leg DL's weekly for legs and I do powerlift DLs for back every other week.

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	17-12-2003 00:23									#9
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Boris! Get your arse in this thread!

	17-12-2003 00:26									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Snotty Squat and DLing freak me out. I'm tall and its all too easy to screw up my lower back muscles. I'll have a crack if I'm in the gym but I do most of my workout at home. Any suggestions for a home workout?

I don't know about a home workout routine, but I will say something about squat & DLs. They are the best excercises you can do for building muscle mass and overall strength. Don't be afraid of them, but study the proper excercise form thoroughly before attempting. Get a trainer, get a video, read a book. Start with very light weight. Don't try to move up in weight too quickly. Get someone to spot you until you feel confident. You will be pleased with the results.

	17-12-2003 00:43									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Spec Have a lot of sex. Spec.

Size of your girlfriend, it would be a damn good workout

Edit: I posted that before I saw the pic of your fiancee. the was very much meant

	17-12-2003 14:38									#12
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Still no-one has provided an explanation what the hell those things are..

Now I go a gym four times a week, still...

	17-12-2003 16:32									#13
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deadlift.

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	17-12-2003 16:36									#15
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both are great excercises but both can really **** up your back if you do them wrong.

edit: just remembered theres also a lovely picture of what can happen if you try to squat too much at rotten.com, its title is simply "weightlifter".

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	17-12-2003 17:32									#16
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Ah, using free weights. I don't use them. Thanks for the pics.

Just got back from the gym actually..

	17-12-2003 17:39									#17
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why dont you use freeweights?

	17-12-2003 17:43									#18
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Use about ten machines instead.

	17-12-2003 18:35									#19
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I do both. Machines are good for targetting a specific muscle group, but freeweights are good doing larger movements, like deadlifts, clean and jerks, snatches, etc.

I always do a round on the machines, something aerobic, another round on the machines and then freeweights

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I never do cardio prior to lifting. It saps you of energy necessary to lift as heavy as possible. After my lifting for the day is done, I will do half hour of cardio.

I try to fit in as many compound excercises into my routine as possible. Squats, DL, Bench Press. I only use free weights as machines restrict your range of motion and limit the amount of muscle fiber that can be recruited for the excercise. I believe isolation excercise like PecDec for example are a waste of time.

	17-12-2003 18:53									#21
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What's your height and weight?

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Well, my routine tends to be..

12 mins treadmill (2% incline, run as fast as I can = around 2.3km at the moment)

2 sets of 8, 1 set to failure on about 10 machines at 63kg (about 140 pounds I think).

12 minutes bike

swim 300 metres

	17-12-2003 18:58									#23
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6'0" 215

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quote: Originally posted by Park Avenue Well, my routine tends to be.. 12 mins treadmill (2% incline, run as fast as I can = around 2.3km at the moment) 2 sets of 8, 1 set to failure on about 10 machines at 63kg (about 140 pounds I think). 12 minutes bike swim 300 metres

Thats quite a cardio workout there with the swimming included. So your lifting is designed to keep everything toned as opposed to building muscle mass, then? Sounds like you would be good at long distance running with the cardio endurance you require for your workouts.

	17-12-2003 19:12									#25
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Well I play football (soccer ), so don't want to be huge and hardly able to run..

I'm 6'0 as well, but only 180lbs or so.

	18-12-2003 07:39									#26
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quote: I never do cardio prior to lifting. It saps you of energy necessary to lift as heavy as possible. After my lifting for the day is done, I will do half hour of cardio.

at first I was going to say you're an overweight tub of fat/muscle, but then you mentioned your height and weight and it became clear, youre just bigger than most people.

I usually do about 15 minutes on the tredmill at a brisk jog, then go lift machines and freeweights (the only machines I use are leg press and lat machine), and then I finish up with 20-30 minutes on the tredmill (depending on how I feel, I like being tired after I work out) going at a brisk jog again with the last 5-10 minutes walking. But I havent worked out in about a month and a half, just havent felt like it.

	18-12-2003 14:31									#27
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