21-11-2003 07:28									#61
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quote: You think any other group achieved "success" quickly or easily?

you get me affirmative action for all minorities, including asians, and i'll shut my trap.

until then, it's a benefits program for only those minorities with powerful lobbies that cry racism or sexism and ***** about every tiny little thing that doesn't go their way.

	21-11-2003 10:24									#62
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quote: Originally posted by jimmytrick Well, the effect that AA has on me is that whenever I am in the position of hiring someone, or boosting the career of a co-worker, I bust my ass to see that a white male gets preference.

I must have hired three dozen people in the last dozen years. I hired minority men and women primarily. I hired only two white males.

From a quality of performance point-of-view, all seemed to do well or not well individually. I never saw a pattern that was based on sex or ethnic background.

This said, I would also so say that I was an exception not the rule. Most other managers/executives seemed to hire primarily white males.

I think AA might still be necessary if only based on my own experience.

	21-11-2003 10:33									#63
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quote: Because you tend to get missed when on is skimming.

He shouldn't get penalized for being the anti-Berzerker. In fact, perhaps parades would be in order .