18-11-2003 22:08									#1
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Hi all,

The new CONQUESTS game provides a very nice screen where you can see the percentage of land you've conquered and the percentage of world population within your empire. Does anyone know if there's a way of determining this information in the PLAY THE WORLD version of the game? I'm currently playing a wild PTW game in which the only viable opponent I have left is Persia. I'm ahead in the score by about 100 points but Persia is way ahead of me in science. Persia already has modern armor and infranty while I'm just getting tanks. We've been pretty civil to one another since we've been busy destroying all the other civs. The problem is that now it's basically come down to the two of us. I don't think I can take Persia on right now in combat so I've been attempting to take as much land as possible to see if I end up with a domination victory. Persia destroyed the poor English but didn't take their land as they were doing so so there's a lot of empty land. I'm spouting settlers like crazy and settling the land BUT I'm not sure if there's going to be enough land for the domination victory. Anyone know if there's some way in PTW to see that land percentage?

Thank you
Lunacy

	18-11-2003 22:35									#2
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There isnt any way that I know of in PTW - what you do need to bear in mind is that you need 66% of the worlds population as well as its land. And you're running out of time, as Persia tends to get bored easily

Posting the save file might give people some ideas.

	18-11-2003 23:28									#3
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Ths is a tool to do the calculation. I am not sure if it is here, but it is on CFC. I never used it, so I do not recall the name.

	19-11-2003 00:03									#4
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quote: Originally posted by vmxa1 Ths is a tool to do the calculation. I am not sure if it is here, but it is on CFC. I never used it, so I do not recall the name.

It's called Mapstat and it is here on 'Poly. It's posted in the Civ3 files forum. Link is HERE

	19-11-2003 00:52									#5
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It doesn't seem to work with PTW, is there an updated version somewhere?

	19-11-2003 05:44									#6
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My version of MapStat (v. 3.1 alpha 2) does work with PTW, although it always defaults to the main Civ3 Saves folder and you have to browse to get to the correct folder for PTW games. It also works for Conquests.

I don't know if there's a more recent version.

	19-11-2003 12:44									#7
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I've got 3.0 I think. It also defaults to the civ3 folder but If I open a PTW save it gives 'odd' results, always insisting that the mongols are the only tribe in the game

I'll see if I can find a more recent version.....

	19-11-2003 14:23									#8
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Found it, did a search on the net and found it on a polish site!?! Also found it on CFC.

3.1a2 works like a charm, even on PTW-saves Just found out that on a current game(scandinavia, tiny map) it will be faster to conquer the world than win by domination

	20-11-2003 00:05									#9
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"The new CONQUESTS game provides a very nice screen where you can see the percentage of land you've conquered and the percentage of world population within your empire."


great news

	20-11-2003 03:40									#10
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quote: Originally posted by bongo Found it, did a search on the net and found it on a polish site!?! Also found it on CFC. 3.1a2 works like a charm, even on PTW-saves Just found out that on a current game(scandinavia, tiny map) it will be faster to conquer the world than win by domination

Yep jsut found it too, took a bit of reasearching it the new mapstats ptw windows alpha version


IT surprised me how far in my current game i am from domination, i have never achieved domination, usually end up with conquest before domination.
Current game i have plenty of population but still need another 734 tiles. Which by a quick look looks like nearly all the land occupied by all the other civs.

Does the domination requirement of 2/3 include the water, if so how do i control that? and does that make it so much harder for worlds with less land ??

	20-11-2003 12:52									#11
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The domination requirement includes land+coastal tiles. To own a tile it has to be within your cultural borders. Sea and ocean are not included as they can never be inside anyones borders.

	21-11-2003 22:16									#12
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not true. sea can be in border just not ocean.

	22-11-2003 23:02									#13
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It might be worth noting here that unlike the in-game report on population and area stats, the MapStat utility gives the statistics for all players (not just for the human player and the nearest rival).

	25-11-2003 04:24									#14
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Wonder when it will hit stores here as well...