21-11-2003 20:46									#31
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BD:

quote: It is a good time for good food and getting the family together.

*like a little child* does that mean that all the little kids will get to see their daddies? and grammie will come back from heaven?

thanksgiving is stupid. thats why i don't celebrate it.

	21-11-2003 20:50									#32
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quote: *like a little child* does that mean that all the little kids will get to see their daddies? and grammie will come back from heaven? thanksgiving is stupid. thats why i don't celebrate it.

quit being cynical your getting it all over the turkey!!

	21-11-2003 20:54									#33
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We're going to Talahassee with freinds. I'm making key lime pie and Mom's heart attack mashed potatoes (one stick of butter, a cup of sour cream and a cup of cream cheese).

	21-11-2003 20:54									#34
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AS, I already edited it out. My point was not very good and analogy was false.

To be fair, it can be expected of someone to know about the US, especially Euros who allegedly goes to school. Because they play important role in modern history... So, I mean not even our neighbours know about us But that's ok, I don't mind and it' sundertsandable.
I just wanted to try to save my face .

I KNOW ABOUT THE TRAINPROTECTORS!

Ok, now out of here.

ps, sorry for making a long post that was not very good. I didn't mean anything by it. I just felt challenged and I wanted to say that I have heard about the US

USA! USA! USA!

I'd put Britney here but I need to run.

	21-11-2003 21:24									#35
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Sloww, is that one of those "Deep-Fried" Turkeys you Southerners like? I want to try deep-fried turkey. mmmm

How many table scraps did that dog and cat have to be bribed with to sit still for that picture?

	21-11-2003 21:28									#36
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fried turkey is good, my mom made it last year (three of them actaully) But Im sure a southern folk could do better since that was the first time she had ever fried anything besides veggies.

	21-11-2003 22:44									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer BD: *like a little child* does that mean that all the little kids will get to see their daddies? and grammie will come back from heaven? thanksgiving is stupid. thats why i don't celebrate it.

My Dad died when I was young. I am not on speaking terms with my grandparents, and since most of my family celebrates thanksgiving with them I won't be seeing too much of my family. But I will get to come home from college, see my mom, and have thanksgiving with her, my older sister, her husband, and my baby nephew. It's not one of those huge thanksgiving dinners like we used to have with the whole extended family together, with over 20+ people there for the big Irish Catholic family this, but I am stilly really thankful and excited about having thanksgiving dinner with the people I will be having it with.

	21-11-2003 22:49									#38
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quote: It's not one of those huge thanksgiving dinners like we used to have with the whole extended family together, with over 20+ people there for the big Irish Catholic family this, but I am stilly really thankful and excited about having thanksgiving dinner with the people I will be having it with.

Enjoy your thanksgivings, Shi.

	21-11-2003 22:51									#39
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I go to my wives Aunts house in Gilroy; she's a good cook... Gotta love Thanksgiving; football, turkey, beer, cranberry sauce, gravey, pie, and more football... and beer

From Adam Sandler:

"They wanna hear the thanksgiving song! All right.."
"This is uhh, This is the Thanksgiving Song"
"I hope you enjoy it."

[Starts playing]
Love to eat turkey
Love to eat turkey

[Shout from Crowd:] "I love you Adam!"
[Adam Sandler:] "Ohhh, I love you!"
Love to eat turkey
'Cause it's good
Love to eat turkey
Like a good boy should
'Cause it's turkey to eat
So good

[Adam Sandler:] "That clappin's messing my head up man. I appreciate it.
But I was trying to think of the next line and all I hear is clapping.
Here we go... Thanks anyways"

Turkey for me
Turkey for you
Let's eat the turkey
In my big brown shoe
Love to eat the turkey
At the table
I once saw a movie
With Betty Grable
Eat that turkey
All night long
Fifty million Elvis fans
Can't be wrong
Turkey lurkey doo and
Turkey lurkey dap
I eat that turkey
Then I take a nap

Thanksgiving is a special night
Jimmy Walker used to say Dynomite
That's right
Turkey with gravy and cranberry
Can't believe the Mets traded Darryl Strawberry
Turkey for you and
Turkey for me
Can't believe Tyson
Gave that girl V.D.

White meat, dark meat
You just can't lose
I fell off my moped
And I got a bruise
Turkey in the oven
And the buns in the toaster
I'll never take down
My Cheryl Tiegs poster
Wrap the turkey up
In aluminum foil
My brother likes to masturbate
With baby oil
Turkey and sweet potato pie
Sammy Davis Jr.
Only had one eye

Turkey for the girls and
Turkey for the boys
My favorite kind of pants
Are corduroys
Gobble gobble goo and
Gobble gobble gickel
I wish turkey
Only cost a nickel
Oh I love turkey on Thanksgiving

	21-11-2003 22:55									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer BD: *like a little child* does that mean that all the little kids will get to see their daddies? and grammie will come back from heaven? thanksgiving is stupid. thats why i don't celebrate it.

AS on Thanksgiving:

	21-11-2003 22:59									#41
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I've never seen nor heard any fireworks on Thanksgiving, duke.

	21-11-2003 23:03									#42
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quote: *like a little child* does that mean that all the little kids will get to see their daddies? and grammie will come back from heaven? thanksgiving is stupid. thats why i don't celebrate it.

that's your perogative. i, on the other hand, will enjoy the day off from work, having a nice meal with my family, and thanking god that the voices are gone now.

	21-11-2003 23:06									#43
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quote: Originally posted by duke o' york Does anyone reckon that the native Americans celebrated their national freedom and their abundance of resources before they were so rudely interrupted?

I've never heard of them having any patriot chest-thumping festivals, but they did have harvest festivals. Just about every culture does.

	21-11-2003 23:23									#44
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So....I once heard that for a Thanksgiving dinner to be "just right" there have to be like a gazillion sidedishes. Could someone list these dished, and maybe some recipes as well?

And maybe post a picture of the entire table

I have this dream that I want to try a real Thanksgiving dinner sometime. And as I'm about as likely to be in the States on Thanksgiving as the Red Sox are to ever win the World Series again, I think I am gonna have to make it myself.

Any info appreciated

Asmodean

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quote: Originally posted by duke o' york Does anyone reckon that the native Americans celebrated their national freedom and their abundance of resources before they were so rudely interrupted? It's not just the fact that many natives died - look back at the purchase of Manhattan and tell me that the natives got a fair deal.

if you assume they invested it in securities that paid a decent return (available on the Amsterdam bourse at the time) and compare it to the value of the same amount of wooded hunting territory (which is what the natives used it for at the time) yeah, it wasnt a bad deal.

	21-11-2003 23:31									#46
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quote: Originally posted by Asmodean So....I once heard that for a Thanksgiving dinner to be "just right" there have to be like a gazillion sidedishes. Could someone list these dished, and maybe some recipes as well? And maybe post a picture of the entire table I have this dream that I want to try a real Thanksgiving dinner sometime. And as I'm about as likely to be in the States on Thanksgiving as the Red Sox are to ever win the World Series again, I think I am gonna have to make it myself. Any info appreciated Asmodean

Lets see: cranberry sauce.
sweet potatoes or mashed potatoes.
Stuffing cooked "inside the bird" or "outside the bird" bread or rice stuffing up north, cornbread stuffing down south.
Vegetables - carrots, green beans, etc.


My favorite thanksgiving customs - as a kid - going with my Dad to Penn Station to meet my Grandpa coming in from Philly. a little later - when my Mom wanted my dad out of the house while she cooked, going with my Dad to Chinatown for a father-son lunch (my mom was on a salt restricted diet, and my dad seldom got to go out for Chinese)

Thanksgiving always brings back memories of them.

	21-11-2003 23:31									#47
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quote: So....I once heard that for a Thanksgiving dinner to be "just right" there have to be like a gazillion sidedishes.

For sure, that's the best part.

Menu Ideas:

Turkey (of course)
Honey Baked Ham (good alternative or addition to a turkey)
Gravey
Cranberry Sauce
Dinner Rolls (or other bread)
Stuffing
Yams (mashed, baked, candied, or all three)
Potatos (mashed, baked, fried, or all three)
Caseroles (potato, green bean, weird new ones you crazy aunt brews up and ends up feeding to the dog)
Jello Molds (why someone makes this I have no idea, but it always seems to make it to the table)
Sausage (my wives familly always has sausage, crazy Krauts)
Salads (green, potato, fruit, etc., generally around 2-3 salads at least)
Other random sides that turn into snacks afterwards (pickles, olives, candies, peppers, cheeses, deli meats, crackers...)

Then the pies!!! Pumpkin Pie... I'm hungry

	21-11-2003 23:43									#48
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So, what's more important to you guys?

Christmas or Thanksgiving?

My guess would be: Thanksgiving for grown-ups (what with the food and all). And Xmas for the children (because of the presents). Am I right? Or is it more complicated than that?

Asmodean

	21-11-2003 23:48									#49
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I get more time off at Christmas.

Christmas is too religious for me, so I like Thanksgiving better. Yet, Christmas dinner is a big event too, and there's a lot more football going on at that time.

Hard to decide. Thing is the "holiday season" here includes Thanksgiving.

	21-11-2003 23:51									#50
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quote: Originally posted by Asmodean So, what's more important to you guys? Christmas or Thanksgiving? My guess would be: Thanksgiving for grown-ups (what with the food and all). And Xmas for the children (because of the presents). Am I right? Or is it more complicated than that? Asmodean

well er, Thanksgiving for me! (but then I dont celebrate Christmas!) Seriously, Thanksgiving was always my favourite "secular" holiday and i suspect it is for most American Jews. Probably the most widely celebrated one as well, all but the ultraorthodox take part is some fashion - kosher supermarkets are filled with kosher turkeys this time of year.

Id say thanksgiving ranked right up there with Passover and Hanukkah as a festival, even as a kid. Today of course i know a comparison doesnt make sense - theyre different

	22-11-2003 00:17									#51
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer BD: *like a little child* does that mean that all the little kids will get to see their daddies? and grammie will come back from heaven? thanksgiving is stupid. thats why i don't celebrate it.

Please spare us the cynical bs. Just because you can't enjoy yourself doesnt mean its stupid.

Ive always liked thanksgiving even through the very desparate times. In some ways its better than Christmans because there is no expectations of gifts. It's just being with someone or even looking back at the things that are good in your life. If you can't find any then you should probably start finding ways to change that.

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quote: Originally posted by Japher I get more time off at Christmas. Christmas is too religious for me, so I like Thanksgiving better. Yet, Christmas dinner is a big event too, and there's a lot more football going on at that time. Hard to decide. Thing is the "holiday season" here includes Thanksgiving.

What is a typical Xmas dinner for you, Japher? Here it's a bit varied bost most people seem to agree that it's either roast pork or duck. If you're fancy you go for goose or even turkey

But our Xmas dinner is always eaten to quickly, I think. You see...we do dinner and presents on the 24th. So if dinner is a 7, then presents start at 8.30. (And in my family there are so many presents that this part lasts untill past midnight)

Do you do Christmas dinner on the 24th ? I know you normally do the presents on the 25 in the morning, right?

Asmodean

	22-11-2003 00:25									#53
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At our house we usually had the same thing for Christmas dinner. Sometimes, a ham instead of turkey, but I liked turkey better. I'll be eating leftovers for a week

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I had a thanksgiving curry this year.

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quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand When the Pilgrims and Native Americans (Injuns) got together. Of course, MrFun will come in here and say it was something else.

The lay people's version of the first Thanksgiving has only a kernel of truth to it.


The first Thanksgiving occurred when the Amerindians saved the few surviving settlers (not all of them were Pilgrims), from starving.

It was not the other way around -- Pilgrims teaching Amerindians how to take care of themselves.

	22-11-2003 00:54									#57
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I work thanksgiving night. I wonder if anyone will come into the store to rent movies.

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Christmas dinner changes every year for my family. My wives is always the same; sausage and turkey.

When I am with my folks I generally do the cooking. My mom usually finds something in a catalog she wants, but doesn't want to fork out the cash for so she buys the meat and has me make it. 3 years ago it was a Tenderloin stuffed with lobster tail with a pesto and caper sauve, last year it was Crown Roast of Lamb with a cranberry vinagerete dressing... Luckily I am not having Christmas with them this year so I don't have to cook

Yes, we do Christmas on the 25th... Dinner is around 2pm.

	22-11-2003 01:42									#59
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Not too many people know about the real origin of Thanksgiving, even among Americans.

Thanksgiving was created by Abraham Lincoln during the Civil War to rally the morale of the union and to thank God because the increase in his blessings were greater than what we were pissing away in war.

http://showcase.netins.net/web/crea...ches/thanks.htm

	22-11-2003 02:47									#60
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In case Thanksgiving is today (yes, I'm an ignorant Euro), happy Thanksgiving you guys and gals.