23-11-2003 21:27									#1
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Why is it that I get a ping that is much higher than in other games in C3C?

a friend and myself who both live in the same city and we have a broadband connection tried to play and our ping was around 500, mine went up to 2000 sometimes and when I other games i usually have a ping between 20 and 100 depending on the location of the server...

needless to say our game wasnīt a pleasant experience...

	23-11-2003 21:57									#2
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Civ3 MP is quite shabby :/

	23-11-2003 23:16									#3
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My brain canīt figure out how a TBS can be THAT slow...

	23-11-2003 23:41									#4
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I don't know why you're having such a huge problem. MP is much improved from PTW and most players are having very pleasant experiences with it. But it still uses Directplay so any old drivers(non-directx compliant) or firewall/router issues are still going to cause you problems.

CS

Last edited by CanuckSoldier on 24-11-2003 at 01:23

	24-11-2003 00:06									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Fatwreck My brain canīt figure out how a TBS can be THAT slow...

Onbe in-game action=/forums/one packet of info sent. Shooters and RTS work different they don't ahve to send a packet every timr you do soemthing so they can "catch up".

	24-11-2003 01:33									#6
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Yes, in a TBS, ALL data from every player(Civ is a peer to peer network game) has to be sent every turn. If just one player has a weak conection the whole game suffers. If two players computers send data that is different(because of lag or anything else) you get a OOS (Out of Sync).

In a FFS(first person shooter) for instance if some info about player data gets lost the game just fills it in on the fly. In a FFS, it doesn't matter if a players position is a couple feet off, or the scenery isn't exact. In a TBS this is critical.

CS

	24-11-2003 03:43									#7
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	24-11-2003 22:57									#8
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quote: Originally posted by CanuckSoldier In a FFS, it doesn't matter if a players position is a couple feet off, or the scenery isn't exact.

Definately does matter. But like you said- FPS games have better prediction, and just better netcode all around.

FPS gamers tend to shoot for broadband connections too, which helps. There's probably a lot of factors that are causing C3C to have poor net performance.