25-11-2003 20:14									#1
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Ok, maybe I'm just missing the obvious. How do I use the coal? It is inside my cultural border, but outside the city radius of any of my cities.

	25-11-2003 20:16									#2
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You can't.

	25-11-2003 20:20									#3
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(&*%$@(*!@)(%#$()@%()&@!%&*!@#%!@ !!!!!

Here is the map of the land I have to go along with that coal


Look at all the Iron!
Look at all the Saltpeter!

Here I am in the industrial age trying to defend myself with Enkidu Warriors.

Last edited by Donegeal on 25-11-2003 at 20:29

	25-11-2003 20:37									#4
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I believe that you CAN use that coal, if you expend a worker to place an airfield on the island. I could very well be wrong. (Of course, you have to wait until you get an airfield) - I'm at work, but check the pedia - Doesn't it say that airfields in addition to airports, and harbors can be a connection in a trade network?

Kevin

	25-11-2003 20:58									#5
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Nice and logical line of though, but....

The pedia says that airfields make a tile work as a city with an airport with regards to units only.

I guess my only option would be to send a worker over there and road the tile. Eventually it will get exhausted (resources will get exhausted when roaded, but not neccisarily connected).

	25-11-2003 21:05									#6
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Well if this was SMAC, you could terraform your way out to the island and build a road to it

	25-11-2003 21:47									#7
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I am pretty sure I have slapped an airfield down on a captured island where the cities had no ports or airports and they showed up as connected. It is worth a try (unless someone knows better?)

	25-11-2003 22:32									#8
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Just roading it definitely doesn't work. The airfield thing could, but the civilopedia says nothing about it. Even under trade networks airfields are not mentioned. It's worth a try, though.

	27-11-2003 00:17									#9
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Yeah, I know roading it won't add it to my trade network. It will, however, cause it to move.

I have gotten to Replaceable Parts in that game, and natrally, no rubber.... (the forests were at one point enormous)

I am going to play this out (its quiet a challenge) and I'll post here to let everyone know for sure about the Airfield deal.

	27-11-2003 00:18									#10
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Airbase does not help.

I had play a similar game, in which an oil deposit lay in a 3-tile island between me and anothor country. The island was very near my mainland and in fact that oil was within one of my port city's range, so I didn't want to build another city on the island.

Thus I cleared marsh, built road and mine on two tiles within my city radius (including the oil tile). My oil counter didn't go up, and I couldn't built railroad on the island.

Then I waited until I get Flight. I built an airbase on the tile without oil, and airports in my core cities. The counter still remain the same, and I still wasn't able to built railroad on the island.

So I guess a single airbase will not connect your country. Maybe at least an airbase and a city...

	27-11-2003 00:22									#11
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Wow, shittly luck Donegeal! May the civ gods bless you with a quick deplete-repop in a spot you can use!

-Arrian

	27-11-2003 01:54									#12
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Try nuking it a bunch.

	28-11-2003 00:00									#13
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if you have C3C, you can bombard the mountains until craters appear, they destroy the resource on the tile

	28-11-2003 10:46									#14
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quote: Originally posted by mrpie if you have C3C, you can bombard the mountains until craters appear, they destroy the resource on the tile

Bombard mountains? Is this something new?


-Patch

	28-11-2003 11:25									#15
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In C3C you can destroy resources through bombardment. So yes, it is new.

	28-11-2003 11:52									#16
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Hmmmm.... bombard can destroy resources.....this is a VERY interesting concept.

	28-11-2003 13:52									#17
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Can it really destroy the resource? Without having it tried, but I doubt so. It would be too easy to leave the AI resourceless and screw it this way. I think the graphical crater overlay just replaces the graphical resource overlay, making the resource invisible, but leaving it there.

	29-11-2003 18:24									#18
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I think it can. I think it's a scenario option though.

	29-11-2003 19:37									#19
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Well, in the game that started this thread, I have bombed the crap out of resources but it never worked on destroying it. I have also tried to bomb just a plain resorce that had no units or improvements on it. It wouldn't allow me to (BTW, the game is an epic game with the plague).

	01-12-2003 20:51									#20
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quote: Originally posted by skywalker In C3C you can destroy resources through bombardment. So yes, it is new.

You gotta be kidding me?!!?!!? If I'd known that I could have won or at least survived a couple of my failed games. This is great news! I can't wait to try this out.

	03-12-2003 01:41									#21
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Perhaps you could try to nuke the coastal areas and dry-up the water thus creating a land-bridge to the resource. Of course, by the time you get nukes you probably won't need that coal anyway.

I did notice that you seem to have Ivory. Build the SoZ so the Ancient Cavalry can help-out your Endikus. But if coal is showing-up the SoZ is probably obsolete.

Better luck next game.

	03-12-2003 15:21									#22
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quote: Originally posted by mrpie if you have C3C, you can bombard the mountains until craters appear, they destroy the resource on the tile

mrpie - can you confirm this destroyed the resource, or does it just hide the resource icon with the craters?

I have not yet seen anything to suggest resources can be destroyed.