29-11-2003 03:54									#1
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I recently had a dream in which I was aware that I was dreaming, and had an argument with a character over whether or not I was dreaming.
I lost the argument, then woke up.

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I was pondering why I seem able to understand everything I know. Initially I did not understand why... so then I understood that my initial premise was false... but then I understood, so ...

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What's the point in asking philosophical questions?
Why do we spontaneously think to ourselves?
Is it possible to think about what you're thinking? (It creates a feedback loop)

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Anyone else have food for thought? I enjoy complicated philosophical stuff to think about.

	29-11-2003 04:00									#2
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Look at yourself in the mirror and try to "feel" yourself. Begin treating the person in the mirror like a different person. Detach yourself.
Wonder what that person is thinking. What has happend to him. Then try to look inward within yourself and wonder about the true essence of your soul.
It's very strange

	29-11-2003 04:09									#3
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i cannot explain why i know some things i know.

like, how i was patton in a previous life. and how before then i was caesar. and how the theme song that plays in the movie, you know, the one that goes didoodoodidoo doodoodoodoodoodoo didoodoodoodidoodoodoodoodoodoodoo....

	29-11-2003 04:15									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed i cannot explain why i know some things i know. like, how i was patton in a previous life. and how before then i was caesar.

funny how few people were bus drivers or factory workers in their previous lives?

	29-11-2003 04:19									#5
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i know you were thrown out of a helicopter in a past life. i'm pices, therefore psychic, so i know these things.

	29-11-2003 04:23									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar Look at yourself in the mirror and try to "feel" yourself. Begin treating the person in the mirror like a different person. Detach yourself. Wonder what that person is thinking. What has happend to him. Then try to look inward within yourself and wonder about the true essence of your soul. It's very strange

Hmmm very good.
But are you/I there? Is it thinking? Being? How can I be sure that this being is real, and not just percieved?
Moreover, does it have perceptions, or not? Are its perceptions real, percieved, or neither?
So it is I, then maybe my perceptions are not percieved... perhaps there are no perceptions, and no reality?
That is, it's not real, it's not an illusion - it simply is not...

So without anything - even concepts - what then?
Is it possible to think outside concepts? To Think outside the tools of thinking?

Very good Comrade - I can feel my thoughts detaching from existence, perception and the thoughts themselves.
Strange, I take it, but I'm used to strange by now.

	29-11-2003 04:25									#7
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Early today I was a little awake and having a dream involving either a dentist, or a sink, I'm not quite sure which. Either way, I spat out whatever was in my mouth. Somebody outside the door walked by, and the noise made me lift my head up a little. I had actually spat on my bed. Luckily it was all in a neat little puddle the size of the dime. I just took my blanket, and wiped the spit into my sheets. I turned over the other way and kept on sleeping.

	29-11-2003 04:27									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed i know you were thrown out of a helicopter in a past life. i'm pices, therefore psychic, so i know these things.

If you mean Pisces, then so am I, but unlike you I am not a semi-literate who believes in astrological mumbo-jumbo

	29-11-2003 04:34									#9
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no, i mean pices.

	29-11-2003 04:35									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed no, i mean pices.

...go on then, I'll fall for it...whats pices?

	29-11-2003 04:38									#11
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beats me. i was just being difficult.

	29-11-2003 04:41									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed beats me. i was just being difficult.

Nice one I thought I'd made a right tw@t of myself by not knowing what a pices could do

	29-11-2003 06:52									#13
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I have Trippy thoughts all the time.

	29-11-2003 07:13									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed i cannot explain why i know some things i know. like, how i was patton in a previous life. and how before then i was caesar. and how the theme song that plays in the movie, you know, the one that goes didoodoodidoo doodoodoodoodoodoo didoodoodoodidoodoodoodoodoodoodoo....

"Twilight Zone" And it was a TV show long before it was a movie.

And how come nobody has past lives where they're nothing but boring, short-lived peasants.

"Yeah, I was first born in 1342... died 5 years later 'cause of the plague. Then I was re-incarnated as a German logger in 1496, but died when I was 22 due to some infection. In 1603 I was again re-incarnated in Sweden, where I was pressed into the service at the age of 12 and died a year later in some god-forsaken field in Germany, forgotten. A hundred years later I was born again, only to die in the great French famines of the early 18th century...."

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JT, see post above

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quote: Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar Look at yourself in the mirror and try to "feel" yourself. Begin treating the person in the mirror like a different person. Detach yourself. Wonder what that person is thinking. What has happend to him. Then try to look inward within yourself and wonder about the true essence of your soul. It's very strange

I've often wondered if mirrors were windows to parallel universes. There's another me, looking at his mirror, wondering the same thing I'm wondering...it's fate really...

	29-11-2003 07:46									#17
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Ahhh, that's what I get for ignoring the rest of the thread in my rush to post the repetitive.

	29-11-2003 08:23									#18
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT Ahhh, that's what I get for ignoring the rest of the thread in my rush to post the repetitive.

..but to be fair you did put a bit more effort into making the point than I did!

	29-11-2003 08:26									#19
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Oooh, style points! I'll take 'em!

	29-11-2003 08:27									#20
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Obviously in my scenario, the person is doomed to a bizarre sort of hell as he is always reincarnated as an European.

	29-11-2003 08:31									#21
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Bizarre hell as in the good kind. Of course.

	29-11-2003 08:37									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Enigma_Nova Very good Comrade - I can feel my thoughts detaching from existence, perception and the thoughts themselves. Strange, I take it, but I'm used to strange by now.

Now instead of detaching from existence...Embrace it! Think about you and your existence. No...Don't think about it. Feel it.
Literally feel existence surging within you. Try to sense it...Not by touch your feel, but just sense it.
I'm not quite sure how to describe it.

But try anyway

	29-11-2003 08:39									#23
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HA! Starving to death as a peasant is like living the high life compared to being an indian who dies of disentaria at 6 months.

	29-11-2003 08:43									#24
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quote: HA! Starving to death as a peasant is like living the high life compared to being an indian who dies of disentaria at 6 months.

Which is still infinitely preferable than being a Communist in Utah.

	29-11-2003 09:41									#25
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT quote: HA! Starving to death as a peasant is like living the high life compared to being an indian who dies of disentaria at 6 months. Which is still infinitely preferable than being a Communist in Utah.

Do not attack what you do not understand
Living here is like living in a different nation. And a better one at that Compared to America, obviously