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The AFC has 3 teams 9-2, with KC still top on 10-1

Yet, in the NFC the Eagles are rebounding and the Rams and Panthers are only 8-3.

So, who... will... go... all... the... way...?

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Patriots, Bengals, Titans, Colts, Chiefs, Dolphins, Vikings, Panthers, Eagles, Cowboys, Rams, and Seahawks advance to the playoffs.

Patriots beat Eagles 23-17 in the Super Bowl.

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Indy has the offense but the "D" isn't quite enough.

Miami has the "D" but the offense is still a bit iffy.

KC definitely has the offense, but the "D" isn't strong enough.

Patriots are good all around, but not quite good enough.

Titans have a great offense and a good run "D" and I think that puts them on top.

Carolina's offense is too weak.

Philly's good all around, but not good enough to match up with the other tope teams.

Dallas, nah, offense can't cut it and Miami showed their weaknesses on "D".

Rams, depends on where they play. At home they can match just about anyone. Away, they barely beat out the likes of Chicago.

Broncos, good on both sides of the ball, but not top calibur.

Minnesota? Not with that defense...

Tennessee will win it all if McNair stays healthy. Although his back-up, Volek(?) came in and did quite well considering. Titans main weakness is the running game, George keeps getting shut down by good run defenses. But who cares when you have McNair throwing the ball. Titans pass defense would seem a bit defective if we look only at stats, but that's because the Titans are usually so far out front by the 3rd quarter other teams end up throwing more.

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I'm looking to see the Patriots in the superbowl. The only team that can take them down at this point is the Titans, and possibly the Colts, but I doubt that the Colts will pull it off.

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after watching the Patriots beat the colts, I'm tempted to say them.

But I'll stick with my preseason pick. Kansas City

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Favre gets a healthy thumb, leads the Pack to a division title, and wins the Super Bowl.

edit: Why the hell are the 49ers in the poll but the Packers aren't?

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Indy has the offense but the "D" isn't quite enough.

Miami has the "D" but the offense is still a bit iffy.

KC definitely has the offense, but the "D" isn't strong enough.

Patriots are good all around, but not quite good enough.

Titans have a great offense and a good run "D" and I think that puts them on top.

Carolina's offense is too weak.

Philly's good all around, but not good enough to match up with the other tope teams.

Dallas, nah, offense can't cut it and Miami showed their weaknesses on "D".

Rams, depends on where they play. At home they can match just about anyone. Away, they barely beat out the likes of Chicago.

Broncos, good on both sides of the ball, but not top calibur.

Minnesota? Not with that defense...

Tennessee will win it all if McNair stays healthy. Although his back-up, Volek(?) came in and did quite well considering. Titans main weakness is the running game, George keeps getting shut down by good run defenses. But who cares when you have McNair throwing the ball. Titans pass defense would seem a bit defective if we look only at stats, but that's because the Titans are usually so far out front by the 3rd quarter other teams end up throwing more.


Miami offense is iffy? Only with Griese in. They are a different team with Fiedler in

Hell it was you guys who were telling me Dallas had the #1 defense- though I dispute that. I care more about points than yards allowed. But Miami crushed Dallas.

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Titans.

A tough defense and an experienced QB are what it takes in the playoffs. No team has a better combination than the Titans.

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Colts.

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Colts.


Peyton, bless his heart, just has a jinx over him on winning it all.

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Miami offense is iffy?


That's what I said.

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Only with Griese in.


Fiedler too, he wasn't exactly lighting up the league before he was injured. Don't mistake the good game he had against Dallas for consistency.

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Hell it was you guys who were telling me Dallas had the #1 defense- though I dispute that.


I told you that? Uh-uh... You're making stuff up...

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I care more about points than yards allowed. But Miami crushed Dallas.


Whooped-de-do

Miami's offense is iffy...iffy...iffy... Mark my words, it'll be Miami's iffy offense that ends their season...










iffy

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The Dolphins face another test next Sunday when they travel to Foxboro to play the Patriots.

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Patriots will beat 'em good







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That's what I said.



Fiedler too, he wasn't exactly lighting up the league before he was injured. Don't mistake the good game he had against Dallas for consistency.



I told you that? Uh-uh... You're making stuff up...



Whooped-de-do

Miami's offense is iffy...iffy...iffy... Mark my words, it'll be Miami's iffy offense that ends their season...










iffy


well I agree, it will be their offense that ends their season- as the last 2 seasons. But I disagree that is because of lack of talent. They have the talent to win it all. It is because of bad offensive play calling. Yes I read a lot of TMQ. But he perfectly illustrates last year when they could have ran the ball 3 times, but instead passed the ball 3 times desperate to get a first down. They could have ran the ball 3 times, not got a first down, and still worked away almost the entire clock and won the game.

Plus they always play shitty in December. So I'm not going to stay here and say their offense is going to light it up in the remaining weeks. I know better.

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No way are the Pats going to let the Dolphins break their winning streak at home. If they go down, they're going to go down kicking and screaming.

They are not going to make it easy for the Fish at ALL.

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Fiedler too, he wasn't exactly lighting up the league before he was injured. Don't mistake the good game he had against Dallas for consistency.


Fielder is like Bernie Kosar in Cleveland in the late 80s. The stats may not be eyepopping, but he just WINS! The team just rallies around him and it IS a different team. There is just something about him that seems to make the team play harder.

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bah...
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Dallas, nah, offense can't cut it and Miami showed their weaknesses on "D".

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Hell it was you guys who were telling me Dallas had the #1 defense- though I dispute that. I care more about points than yards allowed. But Miami crushed Dallas.


bah...dallas played well considering they had FOUR count them 4 turn overs!!!

The win percentage when you are -3 or more is only like 6%, it doesn't matter who you are playing

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the seats on the 1st row, 45 yard line were good though, even if they did lose...

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BEARS!

according to Chicago's very own dope sports radio host, Mike North, on WSCR The Score...

THE BEARS AREN'T MATHETICALLY ELIMINATED SO ANYONE WHO LOSES HOPE AND SAYS THEY CAN'T WIN THE SUPERBOWL IS WRONG AND A DIRTY QUITTER!

oh yeah and he says **** Jauron is a great coach and should be kept for next season because the team will quit if he's fired

But seriously... it won't be the Colts... Peyton Manning is a bum who can't win a big game. Tony Dungy is an A to B coach who has never won more than 1 playoff game in a year. It's funny how Tampa Bay won a Super Bowl the first year he leaves.

I think the Titans may have the best chance to win it all. But the NFL is so hard to predict because of the "any given sunday" factor. It will all depend on who is healthy and who gets lucky.

With this parity crap that the NFL has created, I'd say winning the Super Bowl is about 50% talent and 50% luck.

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DA' BEARS will come to a violent end to their playoff hopes when the PACK just crush them at Lambeau.

PACKERS will triumph over the VIKES for divisional leadership and walk through the playoffs. And the best part of the plan is DA BEARS will help by beating the VIKES at Soldier Field Dec. 14th. Thanks in advance for t he support.

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oh please... the PACK lost to the pathetic lions on Thanksgiving... they are reeling. Brett Favre is playing with a hurt thumb, and in addition he's reaching that ineffective stage of his career. I think he's done after this year. The Bears have been playing great defense. They will contain Ahman Green just like they did Clinton Portis. He might get 100 yds or more, but he won't be effective enough to beat the Bears.

The Bears won't make the playoffs, don't get me wrong here. But they will probably beat the fudgePackers and the Vikes, then Washington, but then losing to the Chiefs. Minnesota will win the division and lose in the first round of the playoffs. The Central just sucks.

If the Pack win, it will be because the Bears offense gets shut down. It will be a close game. But don't fool yourself Defiant... the Pack suck... and will only get worse. The Bears are the second youngest team in the NFL. Their defense will only get better in the coming years. And once Jauron is gone and we get a coach who isn't a moron and an offensive coordinator who knows how to call plays and use personel (PITCHING TO BRIAN URLACHER ON A FAKE FIELD GOAL??? COME ON JOHN SHOOP YOU TWIT!!), they will be a force. And since everyone else in the Central is going to suck in the coming years, I think the Bears are going to be the top team. Favre will be gone and so will any hope of Pack success. The Vikes have no D, same as the Lions. Harrington might come of age and be a good QB, so the Lions might be good. But not until they get some D.

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Mark my words here boy blunder, the PACK will crush them Bears. The only good thing your Bears have is Grossman and I am hoping in the Bears wisdom they trade him to the PACK. It's not just Favre's thumb I just don't see the enthusaism I once saw in him, maybe it is a passing fad or the end, I don't know, but one way or another it is going to have to end.

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With this parity crap that the NFL has created, I'd say winning the Super Bowl is about 50% talent and 50% luck.


And 100% excitment .

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As for the Bears, they suck. They need a QB. Then they need a RB. Then a WR would be nice . They have idiots in the front office (yes, just let Ted Washington go) and it won't get better. If Jauron is gone, some other bad coach will replace him (maybe Fassel).

Watching this year, Brian Urlacher is overrated. He may have been better when he had the huge DTs in front of him, but he has been 'handled' in many games this year. He's very good, but he definetly isn't in the same league as Ray Lewis.

The Vikes will rule the NFC Central in the upcoming years. A few drafts and the D will be fine. They have a good young QB, nice running attack, and a Randy Moss who has become less selfish. The Pack are going to be hurting when Farve leaves, but they can pick someone up in free agency and just hand the ball off to Green 25-30 times a game. The Lions just plain suck, and Harrington is another player who was overrated, though it may just be the pathetic line... who knows?

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The only thing about the Vikes, besides their succky defense it Culpepper loves to turn the ball over, almost worse than Favre lately, if he keeps fumbling the Vikes will not amount to much in the future, look how many TO in the Rams game, no team can win when they do that and that has been the Vikes trademark as of late.

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Imran: well they do need Rex Grossman to develop into a good QB... and Anthony Thomas isn't Barry Sanders, but if they can keep their offensive line healthy and use their players effectively, they can rely on their defense to shut teams down.

Brian Urlacher isn't the god people make him out to be, but he is a very good MLB... skill wise? I put him right behind Ray Lewis at number 2. But he is young and can't dominate the game by himself. It's a team game. And yes, he had success with the two monster DT's or the "700 pounds of ass" as they were referred to hear in Chicago. But Washington was sucking. Plus, the Bears have younger players ready to step up. Washington is having success in NE, and I wish him well, but his career and effectiveness with the Bears was finished. He had to go to make room for the younger guys like Mike Haynes... also, they've been using B.Rob at DT to give Brown and Boone more time at DE to develop.

Also, with Urlacher... two things happened this year.
1. Blache changed the defensive scheme... the D struggled early on, but look at the last 5 or 6 games. They've allowed like 11 points per game.

2. Teams were game planning and focusing on Urlacher. Because the secondary was bad early on, and because there was disorder on the D-line, teams were shutting Urlacher down, making sure he was blocked because they knew he was the only one who could stop them. But since the rest of the D has improved, Urlacher has been playing better.

That's just how football works. If you have one great player and the rest of the unit sucks, you can focus on him and shut him down.

Urlacher is no **** Butkus, but he's young, and getting better. And with a healthy unit, he's going to be a force to be reckoned with. Sure, he's not the best MLB in the league. But he's an elite player.

As for the Vikes? A couple of drafts? Please... their D will suck, and as good as Randy Moss is, without a decent running game, their offense will be easy to shut down. Even if Moss gets 10 catches and 200 yards a game, he'll be the only star. Teams will let Moss put up the numbers, but Moss can't win games by himself. Culpepper is good, but he's not great. Take away Moss and Culpepper won't do jack

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normally I would say the Pack suck, but with Ahman Green they have a chance to win nearly every game they play. Even with Favre hurt.

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I hate to say it, but you guys are missing something, the Ravens are turning it on again.

However, they will have to win the division. If they don't I'm still favoring KC.

KC and Philadelphia.

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besides their succky defense it Culpepper loves to turn the ball over, almost worse than Favre lately,


Hmm.. that was a similar charge labled against the YOUNGER Farve .

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well they do need Rex Grossman to develop into a good QB


Ah those Florida QBs. I don't think Grossman will be that good.

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Urlacher was also overpersuing and teams used it against him greatly. Maybe it was because he felt he had to do everything himself, but in the games I've seen him in, I've been wondering where that hyped Urlacher went.

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and as good as Randy Moss is, without a decent running game, their offense will be easy to shut down.


Without a decent running game? You been watching the Vikes at all? Williams put up great numbers, especially as a career backup in the spotlight, and Bennett is a wonderful RB. They have no problems on offense, except for the picks.

 
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